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dirtbag
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Jan 13, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Jan 13, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
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I'm sorry, survival, I realized I posted the same video twice.
And, I did confuse signing statements with executive orders. Thanks for setting me straight.
Re. the Patriot act this is the video I meant to post.
Dave, please note Obama implies the Patriot Act is an "end run" around the constitution. A statement with which I agree.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 13, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
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I define fascism as politics, government and the broad attempt to control others colored by an anger that is seeping down into hate and the considerations that portions on humanity can only be controlled by force, threat of extermination and extermination.
Some fascists sit on a couch and spout vitriol about "those" people. You often feel dirty or much less happy after listening to them.
Fascist organizations seem to be quite sturdy in structure and always seem to be effectively busy violating basic human rights, often in very complex and covert ways that leave you with a feeling of being overwhelmed.
Positive and creative people make the real advances in civilization. Fascists undermine these and cause eventual collapse.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 13, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
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What's that got to do with fascism?
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Jan 13, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
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Cragman.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 13, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
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It's doubtful, and rather ahistorical, to characterize Attila the Hun or Temujin (Genghis Khan) as "fascists". They were authoritarian and autocratic, but only notable in that they were more successful in doing so than other peoples and leaders of the time. Fascism as it's understood now isn't really possible without a somewhat industrialized society, the modern nation state, etc. The first arguably fascistic states were those that arose in Europe in reaction to the French revolution and Napoleon, or perhaps after the revolts of 1848.
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Jan 13, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
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Sam Walton
Edward Bernays
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Jan 13, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
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from Wikipedia:
corporative organization of the economy that suppresses trade union liberty, broadens the sphere of state intervention, and seeks to achieve, by principles of technocracy and solidarity, the collaboration of the 'productive sectors' under control of the regime, to achieve its goals of power, yet preserving private property and class divisions;"
i.e. Goerge Steinbrenner
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 13, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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Dick Cheney
He's my favorite fascist....
...to hate
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jan 13, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
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with ya there slr
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Jan 13, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
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Dick Cheney
never trust the guy who shoots his friends in the face..
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Jan 13, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
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Is that guy even human?
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
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Jan 13, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
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I don't know but I'm on the schedule to clean his house next week. I may ask to be pulled from that one.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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I don't know but I'm on the schedule to clean his house next week
Can't you just have an "accident" there?
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jan 13, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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Sorry to break up the party but most of these people are fascists only in the sense that the word has become a pejorative for authority of any kind.
Probably call these folks nihilsts or anarchists.
The ones on this thread may be better termed sociopaths. Not locker and Herrr Braun.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 13, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
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Anybody see Starship Troopers?
The director, Paul V, was trying to say that war makes fascists of us all.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 13, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
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Newt Gingrich.
Am I showing my blue underwear again?
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jan 14, 2013 - 09:41am PT
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what happened to Weege's wise crack?
Did the Mrs. see it?
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