Buttermilks poop house? COME ON WTF?

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Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:34am PT
Aren't you supposed to smear it all over a boulder so it dries up quickly and blows away ?



mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 11:52am PT
Yes, preferably in the direct sun light... a nice long rail that is exposed to the wind and bakes in the sun all day long...

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
Unless you're camped there, there's no reason you should be taking a dump there. Day use areas don't need shitters.

Take a sh#t first thing in the morning - like a normal person does - and be done with.

Think ahead. You don't gotta be Nostradamus to see far enough into the future to know you'll need to crap at some point during the day.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:04pm PT
Well that's all well and good for those who have gotten into the sit-on-the-throne-first-thing daily habit, but not everyone is that...anal. har har har....

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 12:05pm PT
Anal or not, we can no longer ignore the fact that steaming piles of people are camping out there nearly every night.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:08pm PT


What's the big deal with bringing in a fuking toilet???...

If everyone is dumping all over the place it sounds like a reasonable idea to me...




I've seen them at MANY crags and they're ALWAYS full...

Obviously people aren't sh!tting the way someone suggest they should here...

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
(fwiw, I didn't ask CMac directly... I just got another account... but being the failed carpenter and aspiring savior that I am, I liked the "our father... resurrected bit)


Ah, well develop a roster of new account names, you'll probably find your account deactivated at some completely random time. It's petty like that.

Anyway, I agree with your shitter ideas, it seems a lot more realistic than expecting the unheralded development of wilderness ethics from a bunch of pad packers. They don't have room for wag bags between their quiver of shoes, ginormous chalk bucket, and av gear.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
From a hydrology standpoint, I think a composting pit in the lower parking lot is the way to go. The soil is very coarse, highly permeable, and there is plenty of material for the composted sh#t to percolate through before reaching any surface water. Hell of a lot better than the alternatives. I suspect this will enhance the scenic beauty of the area by producing a large, lush riparian area immediately downstream of the toilet.

http://www.construction-index.com/usa-composting-toilets.asp



(Mr. Jebus Bomz: I've never met CMac, but I have a few friends who know him. He doesn't seem like a petty person to me and I have nothing against him. I think my particular banning was bullshit since every post I made in that thread included a video of sketchy Andy. But truth be told, I should have been banned many times before but wasn't... so eh, whatever... I have tons of modeling to do and the stupidtaco is the perfect place to burn 5-10 min between runs.)
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:06pm PT
You don't have to get everyone to poop in a bag. Say, 10% of visitors while you wait another 2+ years for that toilet?

How many poops would that be? We could possibly calculate how much that reduces your chances of stepping in poop.

Half the point is education... I'd bet that only a certain percentage view it as a real problem.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
Half the point is education

How do you educate people who clearly do not care? And, as was already said,
I doubt they would walk more than 100 yards to use a one-holer - they
might miss some drama at the boulder.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
all the times ive been to the milks,, ive NEVER used pads.. Couldn't ask for better landings..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
What does your unbelievably bold style have to do with sh#t at the buttermilks?
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
Composting toilet like the ones at Shelf Road is definitely the way to go here.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:08pm PT
i had asked the pad question earlier in the thread Wes,, sooooo glad yur back ... And yes i did grandma and pa baked outta my mind in a cold wind and the clouds were looming too! No spotter no pad no credit card. not a single luxury...


anyhwoo i was just wondering if squishing, and ripping out vegetation for pads counts as stewardship of a fragile ecosystem..




ps. ive never pooped while climbing there. we didnt eat much.. Smoke,, drank,, but not much eating involved. Three day power bar binges plugged one up for a substantial peroid of time.
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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local do-gooder group can issue cheap trowels at the lot; bury your excrement deep so people wont step in it


& make Prayer Flags of used TP and string them around the Peabodys


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RyanD

climber
Squamish
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:36pm PT
Education is key
Education is key
Credit: RyanD

Hey I made a sign for you guys, sadly I can't do any other languages. If someone sends me their adress I can send it down. I'll throw in a 2x4 stake and a few nails with assembly instructions. I don't think some posted regulations can hurt in any overused area.

Even though the Bdays are beautiful they're also packed with rvs, trailers, tents, & SUVs most times so I think they would be a more functional place. Down below might be too far away for many pad ppl. Although I do agree with the aesthetic stand point as well. I'm not a local there by any means but I care about the milks & hope they can be freely used by those looking for one of the prettiest climbing areas around.
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
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some dogs love to gobble up fresh turds

encourage ppl to bring those dogs to the 'Milks!



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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
well we would just end up with twice used turds.. no diff really.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
Its GYM people no doubt. They are city types, not of the wilds. They know knott how to act and where to crap. and thats a fact.
dave

climber
Earth
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:53pm PT
Oh ya. Leave the dogs at home they're possy'ing up and forming gangs out there, shitting everywhere. Its horrendous. NO DOGS!
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