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Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:27am PT
That consciousness thing is a tough one...

Sep 7, 2013 - 12:30am PT
That consciousness thing is a tough one...

No it isn't.

It's very simple to understand.

We're just plain stupid .....

Trad climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:31am PT

When your dead your dead......

No book full of stories can make me believe there is anything else after that.

Personally I think religions and the belief of an after life cause your a believer is the biggest load of horse sh#t out there

We are all carbon based life forms that have evolved its proof.......

Show me proof all the earth holds and is was created in 7 days and well that's a great tale to hear.........

Ur gonna die

That and taxes are for certain.......


Social climber
So Cal
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:38am PT
Can't see it having it's own thread, but climbing and religion related;

Once home to Stylites, the Katskhi Pillar had remained derelict for centuries, and it was only in 1944 that a team of climbers scaled the tower, finding at the top the skeleton of its last occupant. Mr Qavtaradze moved in 1993 after taking his monastic vows, and found it moved him closer to God and help banish a troubled past.

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 7, 2013 - 01:16am PT
I hope before I die I can gain the intelligence you'all posses so as to understand that all life came to be by chance. The sheer luck in the roll of the dice. That all this energy is for not. Just an exasperation. And nothing is reaped from all that was sown. That all emotional investment was wasted breath. And the pure accumulation of information is the crown achievement.
When my eyes close for the last time, I'll.......



Sep 7, 2013 - 11:07am PT
The stupid atheistic dog Malemute is quoting Socrates who was one of the most advanced intelligent God conscious people around.

This shows and proves he doesn't even understand his own arguments nor the people he is using.

This to be expected from a stupid dog ......

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 11:30am PT
"What was God doing ... for an eternity ... before He created the universe ex nihilo? God existed by Himself through an eternity ... without needing a universe. Why did He suddenly desire to create the universe?" (He got hungry and needed someplace to order pizza from?)
Peter A. Angeles

Sep 7, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
I though Howard the Duck was a film about a guy who could clear a traffic jam by eyeball blasting the cars in front.

Sep 7, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Now I get it.

Sep 7, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Why do you think you have been assigned that seat in the corner, dude? To gather the empirical evidence your own self, rather than to take some one's word for it, or read a print out of it off a machine.

Not even close. Yo didn't read what I said - that awareness is not contingent on "content," or the mind's interaction with people, places or things, nor yet with thoughts. Ergo, matter does in fact NOT require an interaction to be "aware,' since it IS aware to begin with.

Sep 7, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
So your parked car is aware and needs no interaction with people to operate since it is pure matter.

Matter just spontaneously operates from nothing.

Holy cow ..... my car just drove away all by itself ......

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Sep 7, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
"Fear and Religion
Religion and Fear.
The two are historically entwined,
the catalysts for most of the atrocities
committed by man.
Fear of evil fuels religion,
religion fuels hatred, hatred fuels evil,
and evil fuels fear among the masses.
It's a diabolical cycle, and we have played
into the Devils hand"

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 7, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Your car drove away by itself and Cosmic will probably get a few more tickets ...a perfect example of Karma at work...RJ
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
Hey if you are out there check in and let us know how you're doing?

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Philip K. Dick

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Sep 7, 2013 - 04:55pm PT
We are convinced that no alternatives that you have proposed exist.

Of course you are, because you have had no direct experinces with anything else to convince you otherwise. What makes me certain about this is that the only alternative you posit is "God" or some supernatural thing and in fact what I talking about can be studied and experienced as a simple, mechanical phenomenon no more difficult to understand then the iris on a camera, which can focus on one thing at the exclusion (blurred) of all else, as well as the idea that with sufficient light, a lens can be set on infinity with an infinite depth of field.

What's more, I offered to pay for you to go study for two days with someone in Idyllwild who is English fluent and who could make some of this clear to you, and you refused. Fair enough, but you can't out of the other side of your mouth insist that you are "convinced," having never taken even the required steps. We reap we you sew. That's no fault of the material nor of you, who keep ranting about being accused of "doing it wrong," but in fact you probably did it right, just not long enough or you tried to run it solo, which is like studying anything by yourself. Possible, but good teachers are a Godsend. And radically steepen your learning curve.

If you have no interest (judged by your effort, what you do, not by what you say) in that direction, fine. But leave off with your talk about being "convinced," while refusing to go where you might learn otherwise. That's called a "forked tongue" in any language.


Mountain climber
La Mancha
Sep 7, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
I think fruity and mutemale should get a room. Imagine the pillow talk. Star Trek quotes and equations. I'm wet just thinking about it.

Come'on now ur gonna make Skepti jealous !!!

Ooo, you got me there! Actually I'm honored that you think I'm intelligent enough to be grouped in with them. And yes you've broken the code: all us educated science-types are closet Trekkies that love gay sex. And a chance for a gay menage a trois? Count me in!!

I hope before I die I can gain the intelligence you'all posses so as to understand that all life came to be by chance

So do we... So do we... You might start by finishing those remedial science classes you skipped to go fully Spiccoli. (Dooood!! That's my skull!!) Then add in comparative anatomy, biochem, embryology, microbiology, cellular & molecular bio, physiology, ecology and physics. Follow that with a reading of The Origin of Species (Betcha can't get past the first chapter) and finish up with reading the Miller-Urey experiment.–Urey_experiment

In retrospect, you might want to add in an English class so you can have a good understanding of the language and spelling. You'all doesn't need an apostrophe and I'm pretty sure you aren't referring to a bunch of deputized cowboys or inner city rap groupies...

Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
A fairly and mildly amusing post, but with a highly dissonant minor second interval :

Actually I'm honored that you think I'm intelligent enough to be grouped in with them.


BTW what does the Miller-Urey experiment have to do with anything?


Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
The religious right of twenty-first century America is anti-American, inherently violent, and a cruel, tyrannical, punitive, force of death and destruction. In its mindset, adult human lives do not matter because the human condition itself is inherently evil resulting in eternal and everlasting punishment in hell unless its members are redeemed in a prescribed manner by the fundamentalist God/man/savior, Jesus Christ. Moreover, with an embarrassingly adolescent flamboyance, Dominionists shamelessly rape, pillage, and desecrate the earth because in the first place, their Bible has given them authority over all things human and in the second place, their “imminent” apocalyptic rapture, transporting them from the human “veil of tears” to live happily ever after in heaven, entitles them to do so. Meanwhile, we the unredeemed, the unbelievers, the poor, the feminists, the gay and lesbian, the disabled, the homeless, the mentally ill, the addicted, and those who are conscientiously following divergent spiritual paths of their choice, are suffering in the wake of Christian fundamentalism’s devastation of the economy, the earth, and the human race. But this is what we deserve for not becoming born-again devotees of their Jesus. And we deserve even worse—to burn in hell for all of eternity. Hence, we are expendable, inconsequential, and a force to be conquered, broken, imprisoned, or killed.

The Religious Right - An Anti-American Terrorist Movement
By Carolyn Baker

Hebrews 1:3
Sep 7, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
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...even the prodigal son used good sense returning home to his (waiting loving) father!

Luke 15:7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
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