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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 12, 2019 - 04:49am PT
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Well said Mei!
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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May 12, 2019 - 07:10am PT
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+1 Mei. My wife is 5'3" with tiny hands. A pretty sinker hand jam for me is a rattly fist for her. I can chimney where she cannot make the span and must do something completely different. Size matters--A LOT. On one sporto rig at City of Rocks, what was about 5.8 for me was probably 10+ or harder for her. She eventually gave up and grabbed the draw. For tall (or just taller than small women) "manly men," it's really, really hard to imagine what being short(er) is like. Next time you tall dudes latch a jug, imagine being 8 or 10 inches shy of that reach. Heh.
BAd
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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May 12, 2019 - 07:21am PT
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Yeah, I liked Mei's post, too.
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WBraun
climber
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May 12, 2019 - 07:44am PT
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Randall doing that reach around butchered Kill Artist.
Groping her from behind like that and avoiding her head on and then running away saying she's not up to par,
after all that training in his basement .....
:-)
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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May 12, 2019 - 08:13am PT
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That move does not appear reachy in the least. 4' - give me a break - for a supposed 13+ climber that's a joke, a non issue, something beyond stupid to even bring up in conversation. Worst case it appears you'd add a couple slaps lower, something short climbers tend to get really good at, and there's no way such a thing would even add a letter. It's obvious the shot was intended to squash such non-sense, but apparently there's only so much a guy can do to present the obvious to the clueless.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 12, 2019 - 10:15am PT
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And yet it clearly shows Multiple lines😎. Case closed,
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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May 12, 2019 - 10:31am PT
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Why do people climb? “Because it’s there”.
Why was the alternate sequence utilized?
Because it was there.
Path of least resistance dictates grade.
A good number of firsts I’ve done over the years have been downgraded by taller climbers using alternate sequences. It may have been discouraging but I never felt like it detracted from what I achieved. It just, “was”.
Two cents.
That said, calling out other opinions as clueless is arrogant projection.
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spectreman
Trad climber
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May 12, 2019 - 10:37am PT
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What JLP said. Tom is not stretched out in any sense of the word in that photo. It's 4 feet across. (I know photos can be deceiving so I'll just make the one comment and then shut up about it)
And, FWIW, I have no dog in this fight and I've really enjoyed Pam's videos and I appreciate her obvious skill and talent.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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May 12, 2019 - 04:54pm PT
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where I would hang a 12lbs sandbag from my harness and go as slow as I could.
That’s how I feel on 5.9 slab sometimes. I sure wish slab climbing was as manly as Offwidthing because that’s all we really have around Fresno. I don’t think I have actually ever hand stacked in my life. And I feel empty because of it.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 12, 2019 - 05:03pm PT
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Last I heard Yosemite was pretty close to Fresno...although the tourist traffic makes it seem pretty far.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 12, 2019 - 06:43pm PT
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I sure wish slab climbing was as manly as Offwidthing
Hmmm... let's think about this.
Grunting loudly while you push huge cams up to keep pro above your head = manly
Whimpering because your last pro is 50 ft below, and you can't decide which crystal to smear on next = wussy
Is that it?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 12, 2019 - 07:07pm PT
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Jaybro, I sent you a PM. I don't know if that subsystem works on the Taco Stand anymore.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 12, 2019 - 07:46pm PT
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I’ll look. Are you fb IM?
Don’t see anything
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 12, 2019 - 07:47pm PT
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No, I despise and never use FB. I sent you my email address.
Thanks!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 12, 2019 - 07:54pm PT
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Check your email
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 12, 2019 - 08:03pm PT
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Got it. Thanks!
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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May 13, 2019 - 08:58am PT
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Ooooooh what are you guys planning?
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WBraun
climber
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May 13, 2019 - 09:02am PT
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They are planning their manifesto of narrow consciousness translated into WIDE .....
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 13, 2019 - 09:40am PT
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^^^ LOL
That's one of your best lines ever. :-)
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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May 13, 2019 - 06:53pm PT
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That is a good one
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