Mass Shootings in my hometown, Christchurch NZ

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Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Mar 16, 2019 - 11:54pm PT

Because Yury, I'm not a Russian Troll.

Wow, I guess I'm working on my Vodka Science Degree.

What an as#@&%e Toker. 50 people were murdered and you post this? You're a dick.

Edited to add: Toker, what's wrong with you? Innocent people were slaughtered and you seem to think it's funny. You're defective. You're the problem.

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Mar 17, 2019 - 12:11am PT

This sick sh#t is really getting old. School shootings, gay bar shootings, mail bombs, threats, violence. And the (P)resident of the United States is encouraging this stuff. Damn. I never thought I'd see this but here we are. This is sick and disgusting and it's time people in power started saying exactly that. This is not what America is about. I know this attack was in New Zealand, but this is about what America is becoming and is encouraged through the actions and texts of Donald Trump. This is disgusting.

Yury

Mountain climber

T.O.

Mar 17, 2019 - 07:17am PT

Winemaker:
School shootings, gay bar shootings, mail bombs, threats, violence. And the (P)resident of the United States is encouraging this stuff.

Winemaker, I apologize for my ignorance, but I have missed Trump encouraging mass shootings.
I would appreciate it if you could provide a link.

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Mar 17, 2019 - 07:21am PT

You know damn well what he's encouraging. Troll.

Yury

Mountain climber

T.O.

Mar 17, 2019 - 07:59am PT

Winemaker:
You know damn well what he's encouraging. Troll.

Right Rejection and Happy Acceptance

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Mar 17, 2019 - 08:27am PT

To quote one of your previous posts Yury:

In my neck of the woods I am used to coordinated MSM attacks first on local mayor and then on his brother who became a Premier of our province.

Troll.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Mar 17, 2019 - 09:05am PT

Winemaker, Reilly is right. Have some perspective.

I daresay that I work harder at making this a better world than you. Who knows.
But while I am unable to mitigate all the hate in the world, I can still muster a laugh now and again.

I'm sorry that we can't all serve your mood.
(I thought winter was over, but there are still a few snowflakes,...)

Trump

climber

Mar 17, 2019 - 09:11am PT

Trump is driving this

He’s certainly helping to move the needle in the wrong direction, but racism and violence have been around for a long time, and Trump didn’t elect himself.

Reporting is that the guy Wahabzadah who chased the shooter off lived in Australia for 27 years but then went to New Zealand because of racism in Australia. We ‘mericans are only part of the puzzle - we may not have as “great” an affect on other people’s lives as we imagine we do.

Early reporting was saying Trump was referenced multiple times in the 74 page manifesto. Not hearing that anymore.

Right, we hear stuff, and we form reactions and beliefs based on what we hear. How many times was Trump actually factually referenced in the manifesto? Do we know? And if we don’t know, are we going to let our not knowing interfere with forming beliefs based on what we heard, and then prevent us from trying to influence other people’s beliefs based on our secondhand knowledge? Like racism and violence, that might be a problem Trump didn’t create.

WBraun

climber

Mar 17, 2019 - 09:16am PT

The live videos are still up everywhere.

Took me 3 seconds to find.

fear

Ice climber

hartford, ct

Mar 17, 2019 - 09:24am PT

People afflicted with TDS don't see rationally however. Everything becomes filtered through "Orange man bad"...

If nothing else the act demonstrates that true evil can strike anywhere. Police will arrive in time to fill out the report. Remember you are your own first responder. Prepare accordingly... or not...

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Mar 17, 2019 - 09:41am PT

I just wasted a few minutes of my life on that KiwiFarms site, there's also a link to 8chan or whatever.

I dunno man - all I'm seeing is a fuking punk ass little twit with some daddy issues and a need for attention.

Spinning it into some larger political issue completely overshoots.

Seems to me the dude really just needed a shrink to get over his dead dad.

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Mar 17, 2019 - 09:43am PT

I'm sorry that we can't all serve your mood.

I'm not asking that. I'm tired of all the killing and the guns. I want my daughter to live in a better world, but I see so much hate being stirred up. Of course I don't blame Trump personally for what's happening, but he sets the tone for discourse and that tone has become really divisive. When the most powerful man in the world, which is what the president is, is amoral, uncaring, incurious, and ego driven there are effects. The echo chamber of the internet resonates and builds and we have things like Christchurch.

MikeL

Social climber

Southern Arizona

Mar 17, 2019 - 10:32am PT

Robert L: In balance, it would be an overstatement to assert that Trump is driving this. But he and his supporters certainly contribute something.

We're all contributing something.

Every society clamps down on individuality and autonomy--or at least what seems to be individuality and autonomy. It is difficult to find any society or culture that did not end up pitting the individual against the collective.

I don't know about every culture, but the Tibetan culture (prior to their explusion, at least) was the only one that was oriented to death and dying because it was believed that at the time of death one could become liberated by negotiating (staying awake) through the bardos.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Sands Motel , Las Vegas

Mar 17, 2019 - 10:47am PT

I listened to a interesting conspiracy theory broadcast on “ crisis actors ‘ in the Sandy Hook shooting . Interesting in that people are itching to believe anything as long as there’s the right authoritarian to deliver a message .

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Mar 17, 2019 - 10:55am PT

Hey Whine Maker, you seem to have mellowed a bit. Good for you.

But please don't vilify my firearms. Target shooting can be a rewarding sport, and all of my guns put together have killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.

I've actually met Trump and seen firsthand what an A-hole he is, but even so I have a hard time blaming him for what a twisted pos does 12,000 miles away.
He was from Australia. Look at what they did to aboriginal people. Makes the interaction of Indians and immigrants look almost tame.

Hate is hate is hate. We have to endeavor to create a better world.

formerclimber

Boulder climber

Mar 17, 2019 - 11:09am PT

People get so concerned about "shootings"....while there's various crime and toxins in the environment that are killing a lot more people every day (latter in the state-sanctioned manner). I'm more concerned about several elderly and near-retirement homeowners that were killed in their rural homes in CA and NV recently.

ecdh

climber

the east

Mar 17, 2019 - 03:57pm PT

Another jacked up brainwashed idiot going abroad and shooting up some locals and other migrants.

Hopefully he will end up in a cell with a bunch of Maori Mongrel Mob fellas.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Mar 17, 2019 - 05:04pm PT

Another drive by news story that received little attention.

Jan 28, 2019 - Manila, Philippines — Church leaders condemned bomb explosions that killed at least 20 people and injured about 100 others inside a Catholic church in the southern Philippines Jan. 27. They called the attack a "heinous and evil" act of terrorism.