Mass Shootings in my hometown, Christchurch NZ

I think there is value in reading the manifesto.

I think there is value in reading the manifesto.

Better to let the scum rot in darkness, than make 'martyrs' of them

Neverhadone: The only responsible party for the heinous act is the person pulling the trigger.

RobertL: ^^^ New Zealand's history is steeped in violence.

I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.

Not everyone who utters those words are insincere. I'd sooner have them than not.

In the old days the locals would come out with their gun blazing and kill the m'fuker perpetrators on the spot ....

Mr Aziz

Hopefully, the name of the man seen (in the shooter's video) unsuccessfully rushing the gunman while being directly shot at with a high caliber weapon will come to light.

Neverhadone:
Hopefully, the name of the man seen (in the shooter's video) unsuccessfully rushing the gunman while being directly shot at with a high caliber weapon will come to light.

Winemaker:
I emailed relatives in NZ and apologized for the part America has played in this horrible event; what has been happening here in America has echoed around the world and has had repercussions, making hate and violence acceptable to too many. Trump is driving this.

Wow, I guess I'm working on my Vodka Science Degree.

Winemaker:
School shootings, gay bar shootings, mail bombs, threats, violence. And the (P)resident of the United States is encouraging this stuff.

Winemaker:
You know damn well what he's encouraging. Troll.

In my neck of the woods I am used to coordinated MSM attacks first on local mayor and then on his brother who became a Premier of our province.

Trump is driving this

Early reporting was saying Trump was referenced multiple times in the 74 page manifesto. Not hearing that anymore.

I'm sorry that we can't all serve your mood.

Robert L: In balance, it would be an overstatement to assert that Trump is driving this. But he and his supporters certainly contribute something.

Jan 28, 2019 - Manila, Philippines — Church leaders condemned bomb explosions that killed at least 20 people and injured about 100 others inside a Catholic church in the southern Philippines Jan. 27. They called the attack a "heinous and evil" act of terrorism.

Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there!

Little coverage of Christians being killed in Africa or the Middle East.

I think we have more time but the population needs to stabilize and reduce to a sustainable level where there is enough to go around without poisoning the planet.

The 15th of March will now forever be a day etched in our collective memories. On a quiet Friday afternoon a man stormed into a place of peaceful worship and took away the lives of 50 people.

That quiet Friday afternoon has become our darkest of days.

But for the families, it was more than that. It was the day that the simple act of prayer – of practising their Muslim faith and religion – led to the loss of their loved ones lives.

Those loved ones, were brothers, daughters, fathers and children.

They were New Zealanders. They are us.

And because they are us, we, as a nation, we mourn them.

We feel a huge duty of care to them. And we have so much we feel the need to say and to do.

One of the roles I never anticipated having, and hoped never to have, is to voice the grief of a nation.

At this time, it has been second only to securing the care of those affected, and the safety of everyone.

And in this role, I wanted to speak directly to the families. We cannot know your grief, but we can walk with you at every stage. We can. And we will, surround you with aroha, manaakitanga and all that makes us, us. Our hearts are heavy but our spirit is strong.

Saw a Dave Attenborough doco.

They reasoned that the planet could support 15 Billion if we all lived like most sub-continent Indians.

That the planet could support 1.5 Billion if we all lived like Americans.

Saving the planet seems like a noble idea. I think the planet will be somewhat fine. Saving our species looks unlikely.

She's a weak leader who is treating the citizens of NZ like babies.

JLP:
the population needs to stabilize and reduce to a sustainable level where there is enough to go around without poisoning the planet.
Unfortunately there’s no economic system where that works, so therefore it will never happen. War, disease and famine are the only forces that will counteract. All wars prior are basically about resources, and there will be more.

JLP, there is an economic system where that works.
It's called modern western (a.k.a. capitalist) society.