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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Yep, uranium too.
What, are we getting ready for another nuclear arms race? Are we gonna build a whole bunch of new Fukushimas to power our "glowing" future???
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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I for one am grateful for the Old U-roads, and also that they are not in use today. No new roads!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Wouldn't mind seeing the road in Hell Roaring reopened.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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You being cryptic there Ronbo?
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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Trump opened Bears Ears and no one showed up. No new claims have been staked...
That should tell you something.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I have spent many months wandering in the canyons of Cedar Mesa and Dark Canyon. Both were already BLM Wilderness Study Areas, while the rims were pretty much open. Grand Gulch has gotten to be pretty crowded in season. In the winter it is still silent. So I go to Cedar Mesa in the middle of winter.
If you look at a map that shows ownership, you will see that a ton of it is state land. It is like a checkerboard. Some sections are state, some are federal...not much is private. The state should just sell that land if the Mormons want more land.
There are a fair number of dry holes in the area. Other than that, I don't know the subsurface geology of the area. It survived the Uranium boom with little or no damage, it survived oil and gas development with no discoveries, and the coals are so thin that they aren't commercial. Timber is only firewood quality.
The Monument, as spelled out, allowed grazing, wood cutting, hunting, and ORV use. Not much changed other than the name.
I am always amazed at how a few ranchers with a few hundred skinny cattle can bend the government. It is lousy range land. At the same time, cattle ranches to the east, in a more humid environment, raise millions of cows. It is a cottage industry at best in most areas between the Rockies and the west side of the Sierra.
You could buy out those guys for nothing. It is a silly argument.
The residents of Blanding, 3400 LDS members strong, don't realize that they have more of a tourist economy than a ranching economy. Those guys just hate the government. They spend all day listening to Limbaugh and Hannity. Farmers in my area are the same.
Funny about Trump wanting to trash trade agreements. Yeah, it will be good for steel, but if other countries start charging tariffs on grain, that will be HUGE. All those white red state cowboys will lose out. We are a big grain exporting country.
In protest, I won't spend a dime in Blanding or Hanksville again. And I will let them know if I stop in at a store for something small.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Base104! Yep, yep, & yep. Agreement all the way from me, but it's hard for me not to buy gas in Hanksville or Blanding, on my way to & back from Grand Gulch/Cedar Mesa.
That land ain't good for much of anything, except for looking & hiking.
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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Exactly how many claims have been staked since opening the monument to development?
I can tell you, but you can do the research yourself.
Hint - all politics, no substance.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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We were there last spring. Went to a remote area thick with Anasazi sites. There was an old
dirt runway that was cut in there about 35 years ago by the oil company. It’s present condition
would qualify as ‘rough’ by Alaskan standards. Anyway, it cost some serious coin to make it
which indicates how much money and effort went into geo exploration back then. Clearly it
was a poor investment and I doubt present day methods would turn up anything more economic
in outlook.
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