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WyoRockMan
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Grizzlyville, WY
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I agree...however, my point is that if Canada is indeed the "Land of the Free", it wouldn't have been a stupid law to begin with. The fact that it is a "law", debunks the notion that Canada is free.
By that logic, any place with "laws" is not free?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Without laws there would be no society. Recall the movie “Road Warrior.” Freedom from want, freedom from fear require a society with laws.
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WBraun
climber
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Without law, there is NO real Freedom ever .....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Fritzi, thanks for actually contributing substantively! My friends never dreamed that bear spray would be an issue. A can is always in a door pocket of their vehicle and/or in a pack pocket so they didn’t even give it a thought. And being a uniform wearing ranger I can assure you her bear spray was just that, why would she carry one of those weak little personal defense ones that only spray 8’? Besides, there’s no damn difference in the products except in terms of volume and range which really makes the Canadian law even stoopider because it basically says it’s cool to carry the far more effective product. Lastly, it puts paid to my assertions that Canadian Customs and Immigrations has some real personnel issues if they have officers who either don’t know the laws or are just being tools.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Without law, there is NO real Freedom ever .....
Werner is correct. Without law you have anarchy, and chaos.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Reilly! No problem. I'm a great believer in bear spray, but I don't leave it in my car, except in coolers. I've known two folks who did & were very, very, sorry when the canister exploded on a hot day. Luckily, no-one was inside the car in either case.
Of course, in our free campsites & after dark in the Northern Rockies, I prefer stuff that makes big flashes & lots of noise.
Also, since someone mentioned you likely couldn't bring bear spray back into the U.S. That does not seem to be a problem either, if you are driving, the bear spray is U.S. made, & you tell the folks you have it, if asked.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Whoa! Guess I’ll start keeping ours in the back of the Raptor!
“How hot was it, Johnny?”
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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cw, thanks! Now, where the heck do you buy those?
Never mind, Mr Google found it! Who knew?
The real question is:
will that labeling suffice for Canuckistani customs tools? ;-/
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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"Jebus, you moron. It wasn't a criminal with the gun, it was a high ranking LE in good standing."
" Yes, I am all for herding up criminals "
It was a crime to cross the border with a gun. Doing so makes you a criminal. A LEO criminal. Where in the constitution of either country does it say LEOs are exempt from the laws? Only morons are subject to the law? I must have missed that article.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Jody: " That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. It is quite the opposite. The "Green" religion is the fastest growing cult in the world and has taken over our government and has scientists basing "findings" on "consensus" rather than scientific facts"
Your denialism is showing yet again.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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cw, the hosers who make those bear spray safety containers won't ship them
to us! They all hate us! All I said is their border tools suck. WTF?
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Only if it has French instructions
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Reilly, you crack me up.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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The one time I went to BC (Bugaboos!) I was struck by all the hot Canadian women border patrol. I mean, there was a bunch of them and they were beautiful. Not so much on the way back down. Bunch of thick necked pigs, really. Looked like Scott Jacobs.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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I moved to Canada in 1997 for work. I was really worried as I pulled up to the border. I had nothing illegal with me, but I did have a full truckload of my shite with me. Was there a nug leftover from some party in a jacket or some residue on a knife that would derail the whole thing? It was February and a wholesale search of my truck would be frigid at the very least. I pull up to the shack and roll down my window.
“Have anything to declare?”
“Yes. 4 rifles, 2 shotguns, a couple hundred rounds of ammunition, a carton of smokes, a case of beer, two dogs. Oh, and I need my work permit.”
“Seriously?”
“Yes”
“Pull over there and come inside.”
I gave him my ID, job letter, diploma, rabies certificates and the cash for the permit. 30 minutes later I was on my way north. In the 4 years I worked up there, I never once had an issue going north. Going south was a 50/50 on getting the runaround and/or searched. Ironically, when I moved back to the US, getting my guns back into the US was the biggest holdup.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2017 - 03:52pm PT
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Stricty going on personal experience, the 4 times that I have gone to Canada they were super polite and nice at the border. The 4 times I have returned home they were dickheads. Yes I completly understand that there has to be laws to have a functioning civil society but when your prison system is for profit and you have more than twice as many people incarcerated as any other country in the world perhaps it is time for some self evaluation.
Jody. rather than go through the PINTA permit process your friend tried to smuggle a firearm into Canada. That makes him a criminal just like any other crook that tries to smuggle a gun into Canada. One of the big reasons that civilians have a poor opinion of law enforcement these days is because we feel you guys act like you are above the law and you hassel us for the same behavior that you routinely engage in.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Best border experience:
Entering India from Nepal by land.
We got off the bus in a small town.
No sign of the border so we start walking down the street.
After a minute some guys call us from the verandah of a small building.
We go over there and the Indian border guys were sitting around at a table.
It took 1 minute and many smiles went around.
Very pleasant
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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You know when there's a heat wave and the crime rate goes way up? I think it's the opposite with Canada. They're all chill because they're chilly.
Ever been to Niagara Falls? What a rude awakening. The Canadian side is kept up nicely and flush with cash. The American side looks like Tijuana.
But it's always fun to tease my Canadian friends. When do you think Canada will be the 51st state? How come most of the good hockey teams are in the US? You guys end every statement like a question?
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