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Peater
Trad climber
Salt Lake City Ut.
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Not fighting is OK OK
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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nah000, I found the fight disturbing. I think you have it right. I like a good well matched fight, it isn't all about the violence of it. It can be brutal, but it's also under control in a crazy sort of way. I found no satisfaction in watching Rousey crushed and humiliated in a few seconds.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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As I stated up page, young men like to fight. Two evenly matched guys going at it for the pure fun of fighting with no real animosity twords each other are fun to watch. This fight was not fun to watch. And I do strongly believe it is the job of the training camp / dojo to get their fighter in mental and physical shape for the fight and give them the skills to defend themselfs in the ring. One of the things that turns me off about modern MMA is the lack of respect, all the trash talk and the animosity.
When I was comming up there was no MMA. You had point tournaments which was a bad joke or you had boxing and kickboxing. If you wanted to really test your martial arts skills outside the rules of boxing and kickboxing what we had were challange matches. There were official chalanges and unnoficial ones. The unoffical chalange match might be refered to as a gym war. This would happen when a high level student or instructor would visit to train with annother dojo. When it came time to spar things would get real and we would find out which school was better. Sensei would of course match up the guest with the student he felt best suited for the task. (I was one of his go to guys for about a decade) Ocasionally sensei would get in on the fun himself. It was undestood that this would happen. If you went accross town and invited yourself into annother dojo you knew you were going into the lions den. We always went out for drinks after class and discussed in detail the ups and downs of these bouts. There was respect and it was fun and the hangovers were monstreous. I also fought several actual chalange matches as well. The most memorable of which we met in a park, got all dressed up in our silly pajama outfits with the belts and dojo patches. We bowed to each other and then had a 45 min full contact brawl after which we went to a bar and drank a dozen or so beers and he came and joined our dojo... That was fun.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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What would Jesus do ?
Jesus votes Trump now
so he'd grab her by the pu$$y!!!
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Ksolem wrote: "I found the fight disturbing"
yeah, i was thinking about this fight some more today, and it seems like part of an unfortunate trajectory the ufc has been on for at least the last yearish: the pursuit and prioritization of big money fights whenever possible, overtop of more structured and title building fights...
i'm talking about prioritizing fights like the diaz/mcgregor fights, the lesnar/hunt fight and yes, the rousey/nunes fight...
why include the rousey/nunes fight in there? because if nunes had the drawing power of rousey and vice versa, then that fight would never have happened. the ufc would have made rousey fight someone else before they allowed her another fight for the title. and given her meltdown and the style of her title losing fight, this is as it should have been if the health of the individual fighters and the division as a whole was made paramount.
why didn't that happen? same reason mcgregor was fighting catchweight fights instead of defending his title for most of this past year: mammon.
and so there are a lot of people to blame for this short sighted trajectory: the ufc brass [dana, fertittas, and wme], the fight watching public, and the fighters/their camps themselves...
as rousey made at least 3 million on this fight, she was not just a passive victim to what is ultimately, imo, a short sighted strategy on the part of the ufc.
however, i do hope that 3 million was worth a piece of her soul.
the devil giveth [mammon], but he certainly did take away...
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Russian intervention affected the outcome.
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ruppell
climber
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McGregor never fought a catchweight fight in the UFC. He fought Diaz at welterweight. He's holding the featherweight and lightweight titles currently. There's a strong rumor going around that he'll fight Woodley next for a shot at the welterweight belt. If that happens the UFC needs to have interm champion fights at both featherweight and lightweight. While I agree it's all about selling tickets McGregor is the real deal.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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^^^^
yeah, fair enough on the welterweight vs catchweight technicality...
that said, and the reason i was thinking it was catchweight, was that the ufc's having the second fight at the meaningless [to both fighters] welterweight class, meant that it was effectively catchweight...
no doubt mcgregor is the real deal... and the irony in my argument is that i suspect those two diaz fights did more to make mcgregor the great fighter that he is and in all likelihood will be, than any fights he might have done within his own weight classes...
ie. not trying to argue that these big money fights don't have a place... just saying it seems the balance has been tipped a bit far in that direction, if the long term robustness/competitiveness of the different divisions is the primary goal.
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ruppell
climber
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Nahooo
I agree. It has been going that way for a long time. Put people in the seats and sell as many PPV tickets as you can. To do that they need star athletes. So they hype it up and sell the event. Should Rousey have gotten that title shot right away? In my opinion, no. Should McGregor be able to hold three belts at the same time? My opinion, no. But my opinion doesn't mean sh#t to the UFC. Money does. And there making bank.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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JB:
agreed. that is what has made the ufc great: the relative to boxing lack of political bullshIt resulting from a "let's throw the best two fighters at each other without dubious reffing and see who comes out on top" approach to things...
and while i agree very little has changed, i do think that there has been a tendency away from placing the two best contenders at each other in favour of hyping the cash drawing fights...
you think i'm intellectualizing... i think you're missing a subtlety...
time will tell.
rupell:
no doubt they are.
rousey made bank too.
as long as they balance big money fights with fights that further the strength of the differing weight classes, they'll keep doing great... if not... well... time will tell.
just as it did for rousey.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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There's a strong rumor going around that he'll fight Woodley next for a shot at the welterweight belt.
Don't believe it.
McGregor is a great fighter but he's mostly great at beating up smaller guys.
Against Diaz he got one ass beating and one very close decision (where he was close to getting knocked out).
Against Woodley he would be fighting someone with the same height/reach, but a much larger frame, and who is also an overall great fighter.
I think McGregor has an ego (prob all fighters do), but he's smart enough to keep it in check and stay very far from Woodey (and any other top fighter in the real 170 weight class--remember that Diaz is a lightweight fighter with a very unsuccessful foray into welterweight, and just fought McG at ww due to strange circumstances).
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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considering the children around the world living with it every day.
says the righteous white father of the black daughter, after he called Michelle Obama (arguably our countries most well-respected black woman) a man.
Yep, lots of black children living with that racist "black women are manly" crap every day, including our black daughters. Let's try not to pile on.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jan 11, 2017 - 12:25am PT
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... Nunes ... tweeted a photoshopped image of herself holding the championship belt while pushing a stroller with Rousey, as a baby, inside of it.
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