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pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 28, 2016 - 10:49am PT
Too bad Amanda didn't try to tickle her.

WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Dec 28, 2016 - 12:08pm PT
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 28, 2016 - 12:23pm PT
an underdog favorite.


??????
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
an underdog favorite.


??????

She's fighting the title belt holder therefore Ronda is the underdog.
The pro's think she'll win = Favored

Edit:
Rousey on Conan show;

Conan: Nunes says she's gonna take you out in the 1st round

Ronda: Well, she's gotta tell herself something 'cause she gasses out in the 2nd

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 28, 2016 - 12:55pm PT
I doubt it will go three rounds.

It will all come down to Rousey, and whether she can penetrate Nunes outer circle of offense. If she can, she has a huge advantage in her judo skills.

If they remain upright, Nunes has the advantage, and will pound her down.

Hard to say.
ruppell

climber
Dec 28, 2016 - 05:15pm PT
Umm, there in no such thing as an underdog favorite. You're either the underdog or the favorite regardless of who has the belt. In this case Rousey is the favorite at -110 and Nuenes is the underdog at +130.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2016 - 06:11pm PT
Umm, there in no such thing as an underdog favorite.


You're right.
It's one or the other.
Either way, I hope Ronda goes home victorious Friday night.
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Dec 28, 2016 - 06:53pm PT
it's an interesting fight, because rousey at this point is such a wild card...

given the yearish long meltdown she went through and the fact that she kept the coach who most of the pundits [including her mom] think hasn't really helped her progress [and has instead been a kind of "yes" man], means it's even more difficult than usual to have a strong opinion one way or the other...

and then combine that with nunes, who has some strange losses and a lack of endurance, and it's anybody's guess...

i'd probably place my money on rousey... but i wouldn't bet much.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 28, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
Chicks in general , are unpredictable...
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 28, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
I've heard a lot of public figures wax on about how Rousey is such a great role model for girls and young women. Sure, if acting like a total ass in the media and at weigh in, refusing to touch gloves at the fight, showing up all arrogant while being visibly out of shape and getting her ass handed to her, and generally behaving with no respect for her opponents is being a role model.

Wyo's in for 34 seconds? I wouldn't do her with his... :-)
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 28, 2016 - 09:56pm PT
Kris, I agree with your assessment of the person. Not particularly sportsmanlike. An embarrassment to her Judo teachers, who I'm sure taught her better than that.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 28, 2016 - 10:29pm PT
Look she was nearly killed in her last fight against Holm--someone who promptly lost her next two fights (she was first TKO'd by Cupcake, who herself was then beaten and promptly retired, and then badly beaten by an undersized albeit very nasty little Ukrainian girl).

Even though I don't like "Rowdy," I don't like to see anyone get injured and genuinely fear for her safety. I suppose she has the grappler's equivalent of a "puncher's chance" if she can somehow get hold of Nunes and apply her patented armbar, but a far more likely scenario is getting beaten to within an inch of her life--just hope they've got a ref who keeps fighter safety in mind and ends it before she's seriously injured. This one could be ugly . . .
rwedgee

Ice climber
CA
Dec 28, 2016 - 10:39pm PT
Remember, this is a new class all together...ronda was the 1st professional to enter the scene, on a sceene that had never existed, never ever seen before...all the others are painters, climbers, uber drivers and such that have jobs and take a crack at fighting. Throw yourself in there and basically you have most of RR's fights. Holly had standup but no ground, Sara(the only "trained" opponent) has wresting but no striking, BBJ, etc. The days of the one dimensional fighter are gone. Kidds these days got major skillz in all, yes all aspects and RR has ZERO striking, footwork and has relied on her judo(#whothef*#kdoesjudo?.com) to get the fight to the ground where she has one move. She is facing a well rounded opponent who knows to keep her hips low if she ties up and has an advantage on the ground, that's a first. RR went ~3 rounds w Misha & Nunes rolled thru her like nothing. Anything can happen butt I would rather see Holm Vs angry lousey. She should retire before she gets embarrassed like Anderson
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 29, 2016 - 04:26am PT
WYO for the humor win. I agree ronda was not a good role model as champion. acted like a punk. Holly is a class act but obviously not well rounded enough for this new group of women. Rousey has a sluggers chance with her arm bar but I expect her to get retired.... she was exposed the same way Buster douglas exposed mike Tyson. Once there is tape out there to study of an unbeatable fighter being beaten badly the game is never the same...
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 29, 2016 - 12:11pm PT

Weigh-in does not look good for Rousey mentally--
Looks scared, deer in the headlights. Apparently she turned tail and ran after the weigh in, refusing UFC's request for take (customary) photos. (She does have some pretty ripped abs though.)

Nunes looks like a typical high-level fighter--confident and aggressive.

pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
Looks scared, deer in the headlights. Apparently she turned tail and ran after the weigh in, refusing UFC's request for take (customary) photos. (She does have some pretty ripped abs though.)

In desert racing that's called a "race face".

She looks as if she only has one thing on her mind, winning.
It's been my experience that competitors that can stay this focused are the ones with the best shot at a championship.

I think Ronda has learned a valuable lesson.
The quiet ones are the ones to watch out for.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 29, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
In desert racing that's called a "race face".

She looks as if she only has one thing on her mind, winning.
It's been my experience that competitors that can stay this focused are the ones with the best shot at a championship.

I think Ronda has learned a valuable lesson.
The quiet ones are the ones to watch out for.

That's putting a positive spin on it and who knows what will happen (I've seen enough fights to know that predictions are pretty worthless, it's an anything-can-happen type sport).
But I don't think you need to use deep psychology to see what's going on here:
she was very seriously injured in the Holm fight, both physically and mentally. I don't think she wanted to fight again, ever, at least not against a girl who can actually hit her. And she knows very well that Nunes can do that and more.

But either the payday was too good to resist or she wasn't strong enough mentally to stand up to everyone telling her to get back in the game when her heart wasn't in it.

This reminds me of Carlos Condit's last fight. The former "Natural Born Killer" was among the best in the world (probably should have been champion but lost a very controversial split decision).
But then he lost his desire to compete, and ended his career in a very surprising and poor performance--he looked to be a pale ghost of his former self.
ruppell

climber
Dec 29, 2016 - 05:33pm PT
RR went ~3 rounds w Misha & Nunes rolled thru her like nothing.

Yep. And Nunes got knocked out by Cat Zingano in the third round. Rousey arm barred Zingano in 14 seconds. It's a fight anything can happen.

Rousey has a sh#t attitude and I have almost zero respect for how she acts. I have the utmost respect for how she performs. She got her ass handed to her by Holmes. She took a year off to collect herself and most likely train in some areas she was weak in. Losses like that can make a fighter or they can break a fighter. This fight will show what option Rousey chooses.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Dec 29, 2016 - 05:40pm PT
Rousey might have legit mental health issues - her dad died pretty early in her life and who knows what kind of defensive walls are put up after that kind of shock to your security.

Either way, I tend to go back and forth on where this fight goes. A focused Rousey tosses Nunes and takes quite a bit of punishment and will find her openings (she has great cardio when not getting pieced up). OR, she pulls a McCall-Lewis '97 and listlessly paces around the octagon before getting headkicked.

Either way I'm tuning in. Really bummed Nunes isn't getting the attention she deserves, also the first LGBT world champ in mainstream combat sports (in the marquee women's combat division, no doubt). A Nunes win would be huge for her, huge for people fighting homophobia trying to get respect in this sport as well.

In the end, /popcorn.
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Dec 29, 2016 - 05:53pm PT
WhyoRockMan:

That post was completely chauvinistic. Loved it. Looks good to me.

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