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Reeotch

climber

4 Corners Area

Nov 22, 2016 - 06:40am PT

I am not endorsing or recommending any of these linked sites, just providing them for information purposes.

C'mon, do really feel you have to say that? Give me a break! Take a stand.

Native people will definitely survive this onslaught. They are strong. People from our community here on the Navajo reservation in Arizona are regularly heading up there to take part in the protest.

One of the big questions about this is, why the media blackout? This is far bigger than the Bundy stand-off (interesting parallels there). Just more evidence of the death of true journalism in this country.

10b4me

Mountain climber

Retired

Nov 22, 2016 - 07:40am PT

Eight things you can do to support the Standing Rock Sioux in stopping the Dakota Access Pipeline:
Contribute to support the Standing Rock Sioux tribe.
Contribute to the Sacred Stone Camp Legal Defense.
Contribute to the Water Collector’s Legal Fund for protesters who get arrested here.
Sign the petition to the White House to stop the pipeline.
Sign this Change.org petition by Oceti Youth to stop the pipeline.
Sign this Credo petition urging President Obama to stop the pipeline.
Sign this MoveOn petition to Stop the Violence Against the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe.
Learn about the Lakota People’s Law Project’s work for the Standing Rock protest in North Dakota here.

skcreidc

Social climber

SD, CA

Nov 22, 2016 - 08:15am PT

Obama has turned a blind eye to the egregious violations of this company. Ditto the state govt.

I'm very disappointed with Obama too. But the state government has not turned a blind eye, they are neck deep involved. The governor is an investor.

NutAgain!

Trad climber

South Pasadena, CA

Nov 22, 2016 - 10:40am PT

This got my attention:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/21/police-citing-ongoing-riot-use-water-cannons-on-dakota-access-protesters-in-freezing-weather/

Hungry profit machine literally killing people, freezing them to death, when they speak out against it. Then there are the stand-offs of the oil-industry rednecks desperate for jobs, using their dogs to attack people including children that are present to protest.

I expect to see a lot more of this type of stuff in the coming decades as resources become more constrained, profits more concentrated, and jobs more scarce. We are all rats multiplying in a shrinking cage. Trump might buy a few years of relative peace through resource plundering that creates short-term jobs, but it won't change the long-term dynamics of our consumptive society and natural tendency to aggregate wealth.

Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber

Nov 22, 2016 - 11:42am PT

Send money for legal aid and winter wear - coats, hats, base layers, socks.

I don't personally believe that being physically there is helpful at all, unless you are really able to do more than be just another body needing food, shelter, education. All these people going "to stand with" or "experience" Standing Rock is like when a natural disaster hits and do-good organizations come in and need help navigating - using in-short-supply resources at the expense of those that truly do have need.

As for putting pressure on Obama. Here's an alternative - start putting pressure on Trump instead. Pressure him to explain how he can manage the inherent conflict of interest that he will be dealing with as president, on this issue, since he has investments in the pipeline project.

Clint Cummins

Trad climber

SF Bay area, CA

Nov 22, 2016 - 12:02pm PT

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/standing-rock/105717021

Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber

Will know soon

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2016 - 12:16pm PT

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Statement Regarding the Dakota Access Pipeline
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Posted 11/14/2016
Release no. 16-027

Contact
Moira Kelley (DOA)
703-614-3992
moira.l.kelley.civ@mail.mil
or
Jessica Kershaw (DOI)
interior_press@ios.doi.gov

Washington, D.C. – Today, the Army informed the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, Energy Transfer Partners, and Dakota Access, LLC, that it has completed the review that it launched on September 9, 2016. The Army has determined that additional discussion and analysis are warranted in light of the history of the Great Sioux Nation’s dispossessions of lands, the importance of Lake Oahe to the Tribe, our government-to-government relationship, and the statute governing easements through government property.
The Army invites the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe to engage in discussion regarding potential conditions on an easement for the pipeline crossing that would reduce the risk of a spill or rupture, hasten detection and response to any possible spill, or otherwise enhance the protection of Lake Oahe and the Tribe’s water supplies. The Army invites discussion of the risk of a spill in light of such conditions, and whether to grant an easement for the pipeline to cross Lake Oahe at the proposed location. The Army continues to welcome any input that the Tribe believes is relevant to the proposed pipeline crossing or the granting of an easement.
While these discussions are ongoing, construction on or under Corps land bordering Lake Oahe cannot occur because the Army has not made a final decision on whether to grant an easement. The Army will work with the Tribe on a timeline that allows for robust discussion and analysis to be completed expeditiously.
We fully support the rights of all Americans to assemble and speak freely, and urge everyone involved in protest or pipeline activities to adhere to the principles of nonviolence.

This seems pretty positive. If I read this correctly, the pipeline cannot go forward at this time and the Tribe is being recognized as a key player in this whole mess. It even appears that they historically have the upper hand in this.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber

Will know soon

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2016 - 12:34pm PT

On a positive note:

Some years ago I served on the San Diego County Planning Commission. A large corporation wanted to put a landfill (trash dump) in the San Luis Rey River bed area. We held numerous hearings on this project as it too involved Indian land that was historically sacred and the river bed was a water source originating in the Palomar Mountain area and ending at the Pacific Ocean.

Respecting the nature of the lands history and not buying into the argument of the environmental report submitted by this corporation to the Planning Commission that a lining would be constructed in the river bed that would never leak, we voted this project down.

I learned just a few days ago that the Pala Indian Tribe has just purchased the land.

10b4me

Mountain climber

Retired

Nov 22, 2016 - 12:50pm PT

Here's an alternative - start putting pressure on Trump instead.

Sorry Terrie, I seriously doubt that would do any good.

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Nov 22, 2016 - 12:54pm PT

Thanks for the concern Lynne, I hope there is something that can be done to expose the corruption involved in these ventures. Once Trump is in I am afraid the little guy in this fight is screwed.

patrick compton

Trad climber

van

Nov 22, 2016 - 01:06pm PT

9. take your money out of big banks and put in a credit union

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/11/10/list-of-the-17-banks-directly-funding-the-north-dakota-pipeline-how-to-stop-them/

Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber

Will know soon

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2016 - 01:12pm PT

Thanks Jon. I am beginning to think it is not so much "exposing corruption" as it is for each one of us to pay attention to what is going on and stay involved. Things happen when we don't pay attention. Our lives are so "busy" (the most heinous 4 letter word ever)we seem to have little time anymore to 1) be engaged with life 2) to have fun in our life.

It was great to see you, Jon Beck, several weekends ago being engaged with your life out in JTree. Cheers, lynnie

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Nov 22, 2016 - 04:13pm PT

Contribute to support the Standing Rock Sioux tribe.
Contribute to the Sacred Stone Camp Legal Defense.
Contribute to the Water Collector’s Legal Fund for protesters who get arrested here.
Sign the petition to the White House to stop the pipeline.
Sign this Change.org petition by Oceti Youth to stop the pipeline.
Sign this Credo petition urging President Obama to stop the pipeline.
Sign this MoveOn petition to Stop the Violence Against the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe.
Learn about the Lakota People’s Law Project’s work for the Standing Rock protest in North Dakota here.

Stop using petroleum products. When you drive your guzzler, you are SCREAMING for ANY projects to move forward.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber

Will know soon

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2016 - 04:31pm PT

Ken M, you got me on that one. I drive a "guzzler" and I'm trying to figure out financially how to put a different car in my future.

feralfae

Boulder climber

in the midst of a metaphysical mystery

Nov 22, 2016 - 08:55pm PT

Nov 22, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
Contribute to support the Standing Rock Sioux tribe.
Contribute to the Sacred Stone Camp Legal Defense.
Contribute to the Water Collector’s Legal Fund for protesters who get arrested here.
Sign the petition to the White House to stop the pipeline.
Sign this Change.org petition by Oceti Youth to stop the pipeline.
Sign this Credo petition urging President Obama to stop the pipeline.
Sign this MoveOn petition to Stop the Violence Against the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe.
Learn about the Lakota People’s Law Project’s work for the Standing Rock protest in North Dakota here.

Stop using petroleum products. When you drive your guzzler, you are SCREAMING for ANY projects to move forward.

Walk more, drive less (the Sioux in me says, "get a horse!" -- and those of you who know us will laugh.)
Consolidate travel, buy more locally from farmers, herders, local artisans. Grow a neighborhood tribe and shop together.
Stand with your family and with people to hold property rights with more respect. People have the right to avoid "civilization" on their traditional lands if they wish. Fences are a wasicu dream, after all.
My Angonquin-speaking Southern Cheyenne Grandmothers say, "Learn to share if you want to survive."

Oh, I did not mean to make where I stand in any way less than transparent, but I also had not read it all. Yes, you are correct that good will prevail. Evil usually ends up eating itself, after all. Here is another site of the messages of the Grandmothers which you might enjoy.

Sitting Bull was assassinated at Standing Rock, by the way. The wasicu were very afraid of the Ghost Dances. And on that note, your prayers will also help.

feralfae climbs down from her horse, and sits quietly again. My electronics curfew is being pushed. :)

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

ne'er–do–well

Nov 22, 2016 - 11:33pm PT

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Nov 23, 2016 - 03:08am PT

Standing Rock is not US land: it is treaty land under recognized ownership by the People of Standing Rock. The corps of engineers has no right to grant any use or encroachment of or on these lands.

Not true, reservations are US lands and subject to all Federal laws and Federal jurisdiction. Reservations are sovereign with respect to the individual states, but not from the Federal government. This is exactly why the election of Trump is bad news for indigenous cultures who have resources that the Feds want access to.

Indians pay no state taxes, but pay Federal taxes like everyone else, the only exemption is no Federal taxation for income earned from their land allotments.

feralfae

Boulder climber

in the midst of a metaphysical mystery

Nov 23, 2016 - 06:51am PT

Yes, but it is not government land, per se. It is not owned by the government, and their process of encroachment or takings must meet the same bar as would apply to your back yard. They could not get the pipeline through white land, so why not abuse those who have stood silent and without a voice for a long time? Fortunately, the rules of engagement have changed a bit, although obviously, water cannons are still considered "fair" by wasicu. Just as those same sorts of water cannons were considered "fair" against civil rights workers 50 years ago.

And the record of fiduciary oversight of the last many federal administrations calls into question the meeting of the moral obligations and intent of trust under those treaties that were signed by Sioux leaders who had no other recourse but to sign, if only to bring an end to the genocide being practiced by the federal government. I imagine if someone were picking off your family one by one, you might enter into an unfair and lopsided treaty to end the genocide as well, eh? The federal government has consistently failed to meet their fiduciary responsibilities of trust and have consistently violated the original treaties. Some of us refuse federal funds, eschew engagement with government officials, and live in peace, self-sufficient and self-supporting, but watchful.

Trump is no better or worse than Clinton. They are all self-serving venal politicians, as far as I am concerned, who have expressed their greed and self-interest to the detriment of practically the entire population of Earth and of the Earth itself. I think Jimmy Carter was the last decent president we had.

Also, I hope everyone has a very Happy Thanksgiving and holiday season. Please and Light for us all, and all best wishes for everyone.

Lynne, thank you for your concern.
feralfae

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Nov 23, 2016 - 06:59am PT

Trump is no better or worse than Clinton.

I strongly disagree, but the Holy electoral map of Make America Great again has spoken on that one.

But I do agree with your suggestions about walking, buying local, etc. This family works on those things.