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ChristopherABrown

Social climber
Santa Barbara California
Dec 25, 2016 - 10:47pm PT
Hah, okay. It's all right there online.

https://www.wto.org/english/res_e/booksp_e/analytic_index_e/gatt1994_e.htm

But the proof of it is in the behaviors. However, if one does not know what correct behaviors are supposed to be of officials, one will certainly not recognize how the behaviors are wring, when they are wrong. Let alone knowing why they are wrong.

I doubt your critical thinking skills are up to it, so I'll help some. The above link is daunting, and I've been at it for years, after years of listening to others who sourced it before it was a complex as it is now.

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/disp_settlement_cbt_e/c1s4p1_e.htm

1.4 Participants in the dispute settlement system

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Preface
Introduction to the WTO dispute settlement system
1.1 Importance of the WTO dispute settlement system
1.2 The Dispute Settlement Understanding
1.3 Functions, objectives and key features of the dispute settlement system
1.4 Participants in the dispute settlement system
1.5 Substantive scope of the dispute settlement system
1.6 Developing country Members and the dispute settlement system
1.7 Test Questions
Historic development of the WTO dispute settlement system
WTO Bodies involved in the dispute settlement process
Legal basis for a dispute
Possible Object of a Complaint — Jurisdiction of Panels and the Appellate Body
The process — Stages in a typical WTO dispute settlement case
Legal effect of panel and appellate body reports and DSB recommendations and rulings
Dispute Settlement without recourse to Panels and the Appellate Body
Participation in dispute settlement proceedings
Participation in dispute settlement proceedings
Developing countries in WTO dispute settlement
Evaluation of the WTO dispute settlement system: results to date
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Parties and third parties
The only participants in the dispute settlement system are the Member governments of the WTO), which can take part either as parties or as third parties. The WTO Secretariat, WTO observer countries, other international organizations, and regional or local governments are not entitled to initiate dispute settlement proceedings in the WTO.

The DSU sometimes refers to the Member bringing the dispute as the “complaining party” or the “complainant” (this guide mostly uses the term “complainant”). No equivalent short term is used for the “party to whom the request for consultations is addressed”. The DSU sometimes also speaks of “Member concerned”. In practice, the terms “respondent” or “defendant” are commonly used; this guide mostly uses the term “respondent”.



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Since only WTO Member governments can bring disputes, it follows that private individuals or companies do not have direct access to the dispute settlement system, even if they may often be the ones (as exporters or importers) most directly and adversely affected by the measures allegedly violating the WTO Agreement. The same is true of other non-governmental organizations with a general interest in a matter before the dispute settlement system (which are often referred to as NGOs). They, too, cannot initiate WTO dispute settlement proceedings.

Of course, these organizations can, and often do, exert influence or even pressure on the government of a WTO Member with respect to the triggering of a dispute. Indeed, several WTO Members have formally adopted internal legislation under which private parties can petition their governments to bring a WTO dispute.1

There are divergent views among Members on whether non-governmental organizations may play a role in WTO dispute settlement proceedings, for example, by filing amicus curiae submissions with WTO dispute settlement bodies. According to WTO jurisprudence, panels and the Appellate Body have the discretion to accept or reject these submissions, but are not obliged to consider them.

Can you see where any group of people other than member government has standing? GATT.

I say their behavior and that of the government LE matches the expected reaction of a "member" government.

Are you getting the idea of how the legalese works now?
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 26, 2016 - 07:54am PT
Of concern to me is the crossing under a major river--the Missouri. Do other pipelines cross such critical systems? I trust the infrastructure to fail--it always does. So what happens when millions of gallons of oil get pumped into the Missouri, then the Mississippi? Of course, the company will be very sorry. They may even suffer fines--the horror! Worst case scenario--for them--would be bankruptcy. But the humans and wildlife down stream are screwed. Deep Water Horizon, anyone?

BAd
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Dec 26, 2016 - 08:52am PT
Do other pipelines cross such critical systems?

There are hundreds of pipelines crossing major river systems in the US.

http://bohs.tk/map-us-pipelines/
ChristopherABrown

Social climber
Santa Barbara California
Dec 26, 2016 - 11:45am PT
Yes Bad Climber, Wyorockclimber is correct. Every pipeline in the nation crosses water ways. This is why we need to unify in the protection of these vital elements.

Basically the nation is WAY overdue for the lawful and peaceful revolution that is a part of American framing documents.

It is really quite simple. Certainly simpler than the bizarre complexities of American politics.

Based in the 9th Amendment and Article V it hinges on a majority agreement upon the most prime constitutional intent. Lincoln new about it, but history covered it. Logically so because it was the infiltration of the federal government which wanted the civil war. It seems Lincoln made a deal to prosecute the war for the infiltration IF he failed to unify Americans under the constitutions intents for their lawful and peaceful revolution to become "the rightful masters of the congress and the court".

Today, simply by agreeing that free speech has the PURPOSE of enabling the unity required to alter or abolish, a right manifested as law with Article V, we can invoke the 9th amendment. However, Article V is conducted by states legislations, so we need to unify in our states with agreement upon definition of prime constitutional right. States cannot deny or disparage our invocation of the 9th amendment when we agree. Then, they must begin conventions proposing amendment. When 38 states are ratifying, congress and the court have no authority over the amendment. These 2 declarations probably define the most prime rights.

--As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you understand, agree and accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?

As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you understand, agree, accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent that the ultimate purpose of free speech be to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?--

However, we have a long way to go because the abridging of the PURPOSE of free speech is going to make the simple sharing of this across our masses a big challenge. I do not see we have any other chance of assuring our survival under the control of corporations that actually supported things like the biosphere. A failed effort to see if we could create a closed environment to survive in.

I have a page about the legal process that uses our agreement to control state legislations with law.

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 26, 2016 - 12:54pm PT
Christopher, this is a climbers forum. Traditionally, when a new person appears, they introduce themselves, talk about their climbing experience, and who they have climbed with that people might know. It helps in being able to relate to them, and where they are coming from.

Thanks!
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Dec 26, 2016 - 01:38pm PT
Christopher, this is a climbers forum. Traditionally, when a new person appears, they introduce themselves, talk about their climbing experience, and who they have climbed with that people might know. It helps in being able to relate to them, and where they are coming from.

Thanks!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2016 - 02:22pm PT
Ken M. I was just going to post the same thing. Thanks!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 26, 2016 - 09:40pm PT
hey there say, lynne, feralfae, and all...

say, lynne... one thing that some of us can do, if we can't
help any other way, is:

we can fast, and pray... it does things, 'higher up' that we don't understand...


i've done it for serious family situations, and even if it didn't
fix things, it eased the pain, or helped make a new way in the situation,
for those in need... and sometimes, it completely fixed things...

you just don't know...
but sure doesn't hurt...


ChristopherABrown

Social climber
Santa Barbara California
Dec 27, 2016 - 09:27pm PT
Sorry, my mistake. This forum showed up in a google search for standing rock. I thought there might be some reasonable discussion with Americans that care about constitutional enforcement and vital elements. It's clear now that other things are more important here.

I thought that. "Social climber" would ID me as not a rock climber.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 27, 2016 - 10:42pm PT
My work here is done. :)
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Dec 28, 2016 - 08:51am PT
pau!
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Dec 29, 2016 - 07:58am PT
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre
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