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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Sep 11, 2018 - 02:01pm PT
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Impressive shots, Lituya. Melting glaciers don't lie. Anyone see the pics of Will Gadd climbing the last ice remnants on Kilimanjaro? Wild stuff:
BAd
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Sep 11, 2018 - 05:20pm PT
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Too bad Musk has gone the way of Ricky Williams.:) Just kidding, it may very well bear fruit. I've been known to come up with an idea or two while in an alternate state (to be honest, all bad ones through now). I see new "ideas" working on two fronts;
1. The obvious engineering front where we are David and Mother Nature is Goliath. This is where I am hoping for people like Musk as "Hail Mary's".
2. The propaganda front -- good propaganda, that appeals to humans' best interests to collectively care for our environment and reduce the carbon footprint.
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clifff
Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
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Sep 12, 2018 - 09:42am PT
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Blue Ocean Event
As long as the Arctic Ocean has sea ice, most sunlight gets reflected back into space and the 'Center-of-Coldness' remains near the North Pole, says Paul. With the decline of the sea ice, however, the 'Center-of-Coldness' will shift to the middle of Greenland. Accordingly, we can expect the jet streams to shift their center of rotation 17° southward, i.e. away from the North Pole towards Greenland, with profound consequences for our global weather patterns and climate system, for plants and animals, and for human civilization, e.g. our ability to grow food
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Sep 14, 2018 - 03:15pm PT
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Whatever happened to “the pause”.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Sep 14, 2018 - 03:50pm PT
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Is that supposed to be a good thing, EdwardT? You just don't get it! It's very much like the Trump tax cuts. They are all about the short-term at the expense of the long-term. Maybe you don't have kids. I do.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Sep 14, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
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Some will never divest ,or,learn.
There is nothing to do ,but,belittle.
I am beginning to believe that the best thing to do is ,when everyone has switched to E vehicles,or completely become at least carbon neutral overall,there will still be that dude with the F250.
I am going to STF away,long away.
That is coming.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Sep 14, 2018 - 04:30pm PT
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Global Temps and Trends by President
Go Donald!
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 14, 2018 - 04:43pm PT
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It's hypocrites like Malemute who caused climate change.
All their modern science fukups and then blaming everyone else.
Such hypocrites .....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Sep 14, 2018 - 04:46pm PT
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Like yourself Bruan. Lol
Sketch likes graphs.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 14, 2018 - 04:47pm PT
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Yap yap yap yap is all you have .....
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Sep 14, 2018 - 07:06pm PT
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And Wilbur likes posting bogus crap. Sell those lies Mr. Backwoods Burnout. 👍
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Sep 14, 2018 - 09:00pm PT
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Ha , ha , ha , ha ....Rotflmao....
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Sep 14, 2018 - 09:05pm PT
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Yes, Jody has it right
What you do not understand and only people like me and Jody do, is that "science" is only peer reviewed, tested, and constantly criticized by other scientists, that does NOT make it correct.
What is correct is what people say is correct. This is rightfully now called Alternative Facts.
For example, on June 3rd of this year there were some cooler temperatures than normal recorded in New Mexico. Therefore, "Global Warning" is proven wrong, a lie.
Now you elites who think you are more educated, smarter than me and Jody, can go on and on about your "studies" but we will just ignore them and claim the opposite. So there, LOL, Libtards, hahaha
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Sep 14, 2018 - 09:07pm PT
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Truth isn't truth...Perhaps you think my dog looks like toto from the wizard of oz...?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Sep 14, 2018 - 09:21pm PT
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Truth isn't truth
exactly, Johnny
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Sep 14, 2018 - 09:23pm PT
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Reposted to show solidarity with Jody
Yes, Jody has it right
What you do not understand and only people like me and Jody do, is that "science" is only peer reviewed, tested, and constantly criticized by other scientists, that does NOT make it correct.
What is correct is what people say is correct. This is rightfully now called Alternative Facts.
For example, on June 3rd of this year there were some cooler temperatures than normal recorded in New Mexico. Therefore, "Global Warning" is proven wrong, a lie.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Sep 14, 2018 - 09:26pm PT
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I'm all down with Jody...Waiting for Itchy Balls and Crotch Rocket to join in...Hail Jody...RJ
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Sep 20, 2018 - 02:42pm PT
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It makes it all the more unbelievable that there are posters here that still believe that global warming is a giant hoax, when there were studies done by the oil companies in the 80's that confirm the current scientific consensus on global warming.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings
In the 1980s, oil companies like Exxon and Shell carried out internal assessments of the carbon dioxide released by fossil fuels, and forecast the planetary consequences of these emissions. In 1982, for example, Exxon predicted that by about 2060, CO2 levels would reach around 560 parts per million – double the preindustrial level – and that this would push the planet’s average temperatures up by about 2°C over then-current levels (and even more compared to pre-industrial levels).
Later that decade, in 1988, an internal report by Shell projected similar effects but also found that CO2 could double even earlier, by 2030. Privately, these companies did not dispute the links between their products, global warming, and ecological calamity. On the contrary, their research confirmed the connections.
Shell’s assessment foresaw a one-meter sea-level rise, and noted that warming could also fuel disintegration of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, resulting in a worldwide rise in sea level of “five to six meters.” That would be enough to inundate entire low-lying countries.
Shell’s analysts also warned of the “disappearance of specific ecosystems or habitat destruction,” predicted an increase in “runoff, destructive floods, and inundation of low-lying farmland,” and said that “new sources of freshwater would be required” to compensate for changes in precipitation. Global changes in air temperature would also “drastically change the way people live and work.” All told, Shell concluded, “the changes may be the greatest in recorded history.”
For its part, Exxon warned of “potentially catastrophic events that must be considered.” Like Shell’s experts, Exxon’s scientists predicted devastating sea-level rise, and warned that the American Midwest and other parts of the world could become desert-like. Looking on the bright side, the company expressed its confidence that “this problem is not as significant to mankind as a nuclear holocaust or world famine.”
The documents make for frightening reading. And the effect is all the more chilling in view of the oil giants’ refusal to warn the public about the damage that their own researchers predicted. Shell’s report, marked “confidential,” was first disclosed by a Dutch news organization earlier this year. Exxon’s study was not intended for external distribution, either; it was leaked in 2015.
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