Climate Change: Why aren't more people concerned about it?

Why worry about it if there is nothing you can do about it? It isn't being caused by humans therefore humans can't affect it. Who says climate change is bad anyway? Maybe it is GOOD for the earth.

Animal populations boom and bust. We're animals. Approaching the bust. Short sightedness is a characteristic of our species. Be glad you lived when you have.

because it didn't fit their observations

Jody - Whatever they choose to call IT, the thought that we can do something about IT, that IT is being caused by humans, and that IT has catastrophic consequences, is only believed and taken as undeniable "fact" if you are an environmental nutcase quack.

Global warming is happening now. The planet's temperature is rising. The trend is clear and unmistakable. Every one of the past 38 years has been warmer than the 20th century average. The 12 warmest years on record have all occurred since 1998. The hottest year ever recorded for the contiguous United States occurred in 2012. Globally, the average surface temperature has increased more than one degree Fahrenheit since the late 1800s. Most of that increase has occurred over just the past three decades.

We are the cause. We are overloading our atmosphere with carbon dioxide, which traps heat and steadily drives up the planet’s temperature. Where does all this carbon come from? The fossil fuels we burn for energy—coal, natural gas, and oil—plus the loss of forests due to deforestation, especially in the tropics. The scientific evidence is clear. Within the scientific community, there is no debate. An overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that global warming is happening and that human activity is the primary cause.

A majority of earth's scientists have understood for some time that climate change is caused by human activity and is absolutely real. It's not even a real debate any longer among forward thinking people.

Answer me this, umpteen thousands of years ago, when a majority of the earth was covered in ice, what caused it to start melting?

You too, Curt.

What do you DO?

What do we do about the other 95% of humanity?

perhaps educating those that are reproducing most rapidly would help, as suggested.

Why aren't more people concerned about it?

This is an interesting iteration of my "F*#k it dude, let's go bowling" approach. Your attitude is the same as that in the Chinese smelters, that of the biggest polluters in Asia. It's the "I'm getting mine, f*#k the commons, and f*#k you" strategy. It works. For you.

In the 1970's we were supposed to be headed into an ice age,
in the 1980's we had the hole in the ozone,
in the late 90's-into the 2000's we had global warming and rising ocean levels.
Now it's climate change.

I think the average person has just become immune.

IT is all about controlling the people based on fraud.

.What was that story about Exxon publishing fake science to help squelch climate change science...?

(10) your government is corrupt and incompetent

IT is all about controlling the people based on fraud.

Sadly, the more I read of these stubborn American opinions the more I'm convinced the problem will be addressed through generational turnover.

"I also think that people have little sense about how profound an effect that greenhouse gases have on our daily temperature."

Why is it warmer at night when it's cloudy?
Because the clouds act as a blanket.

Everybody knows this, but the public doesn't understand the reason,
which is
-the earth radiates infrared frequencies due to the black body effect
-water vapour in clouds is a greenhouse gas
-greenhouse gases absorb & emit infrared radiation
-a good portion of the emitted radiation goes back to the earth

So greenhouse gases cause the earth to retain heat
This isn't rocket science

So long as the playing field is level, yes. If you expect me to take unilateral action, I will not.

To be a leader in Environmentalism you have to practice what you preach.

Look at your complete climbing resume, how many gallons of fuel made that happen?

People hear you say fossil fuels are going to kill humanity; yet you live a high carbon footprint lifestyle.

2016 NIMBY

Are you saying that all of the current climate change and/or global warming is 100% human caused?

And, are you stating for a fact that all climate changes/global warming are 100% a result of C02 increases?

Are you also stating as fact that C02 changes are followed by temperature changes and if so, are you 100% dismissing all of the empirical evidence suggesting that C02 follows rather than proceeds temperature changes?

Certainly debatable in the scienetific community, but its still a big and non-consensus question of what comes first - C02 increases or temperature rising.

Careful here!

And, no one wants to answer the questions of what percent we are really responsible for and what percent we can really change or effect?

Am I really helping by driving a Prius while most of middle Africa cooks on open fires with local gathered wood and India and China have no state emission shops for their buggies.

You are Exhibit A thru Z why people are drifting away from believing in Climate Change. I used believe it and defend it. I thought all the data was in and the science was settled.

I honestly see more and more scientist, articles and data moving away from wholly anthropogenic global warming.

What was predicted did NOT happen, or is NOT happening. And, 'after the fact' studies do not support the presupposed predictions or computer models.

^ I studied IR (infrared) and Raman spectroscopy in university.
You are wrong.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/greenhousegases/properties.html
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For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself

(Marrakech, 4 November 2016) – A big green light for faster, stronger climate action was switched on today as the Paris Climate Change Agreement entered into force, only three days before the start of this year’s UN Climate Change Conference in Marrakech.

“The Paris Agreement’s ambitious and essential goals are now a live reality for every government. From today, ever-increasing climate action becomes an accepted responsibility and a central part of the sustainable development plans of all countries,” said Patricia Espinosa, Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).

“It’s just bullshit for them to say: ‘We’ll have a 2C warming target and then try to do a little better every five years.’ It’s just worthless words. There is no action, just promises. As long as fossil fuels appear to be the cheapest fuels out there, they will be continued to be burned.” -James Hansen

Banquo -- "Truth" does not exist.

Banquo -- Name one absolute truth.

this is interesting. The Inuit are saying that the pole has shifted. Not just the magnetic pole, but the physical pole.

Fear of knowledge is a deeply anchored foundation of faith-based religions

Banquo -- "We ask some imagined higher power to intervene on our behalf."

without science

In fact, about the only place left on Earth where lawmakers openly and avidly deny the science of climate change is the U.S. Congress. More to the point, says Sen. Brian Schatz, a Democrat from Hawaii and a leader on climate policy, "There is only one major political party in the world that denies the existence of climate change. And it happens to be in charge of the most important political body in the world."

The twenty-second session of the Conference of the Parties (COP 22) and the twelfth session of the Conference of the Parties serving as the meeting of the Parties to the Kyoto Protocol (CMP 12) will be held in Bab Ighli, Marrakech, Morocco from 7-18 November 2016.

On 5 October 2016, the threshold for entry into force of the Paris Agreement was achieved. The Paris Agreement entered into force on 4 November 2016. As a result, the first session of the Conference of the Parties serving as the meeting of the Parties to the Paris Agreement (CMA 1) will take place in Marrakech in conjunction with COP 22 and CMP 12.

BEIJING—China’s government said it would raise coal power capacity by as much as 20% by 2020, ensuring a continuing strong role for the commodity in the country’s energy sector despite a pledge to bring down pollution levels.

In a new five-year plan for electricity released Monday, the National Energy Administration said it would raise coal-fired power capacity from around 900 gigawatts last year to as high as 1,100 gigawatts by 2020. The roughly 200-gigawatt increase alone is more than the total power capacity of Canada.

It means I know how & why greenhouse gas molecules absorb the PHOTONS of infrared radiation, and release PHOTONS of infrared radiation.

Sure, the gases and particles absorb some IR, but that absorption does not determine what they emit
You don't have a clue.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation

http://scied.ucar.edu/carbon-dioxide-absorbs-and-re-emits-infrared-radiation

Read this & educate yourself
http://butane.chem.uiuc.edu/pshapley/genchem1/l15/web-l15.pdf




Do you know what these images show? Do you know why there are discrete spikes?

Your uninformed opinions mean squat.

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Although scientific opinion on climate change is that human activity is extremely likely to be the primary driver of climate change,[12][13] the politics of global warming have been affected by climate change denial, hindering efforts to prevent climate change and adapt to the warming climate.[14][15][16] Those promoting denial commonly use rhetorical tactics to give the appearance of a scientific controversy where there is none.[17][18]

...In his final chapter, Gordin turns to the new phase of pseudoscience, practiced by a few rogue scientists themselves. Climate change denialism is the prime example, where a handful of scientists, allied with an effective PR machine, are publicly challenging the scientific consensus that global warming is real and is due primarily to human consumption of fossil fuels. Scientists have watched in disbelief that as the evidence for global warming has become ever more solid, the deniers have been increasingly successful in the public and political arena. … Today pseudoscience is still with us, and is as dangerous a challenge to science as it ever was in the past.[126]

The answer to the second two questions are yes, to a degree. Could be I understand radiation more than you. But I am not here to argue from authority or to list my qualifications. That's not how ideas are settled.

Anyway, I was making a point about the so-called greenhouse effect, not the physics of radiation. It is a widely misunderstood effect, and much larger than commonly thought.

Your errors were in the atmospheric science, not the radiation, as I explained. But they are common errors. I am sorry that I offended you by pointing that out. Peace.

^^^
100% troll nonsense idiocy garbage fake

Let's make America great again.

Maybe we can get some Acid Rain going again.
The Chief would call me a hipocrite......lol.

As a long time legal analyst and attorney...

Sea ice loss is accelerating in the Barents and Kara Seas (BKS). Assessing potential linkages between sea ice retreat/thinning and the region's ancient and unique social–ecological systems is a pressing task. Tundra nomadism remains a vitally important livelihood for indigenous Nenets and their large reindeer herds. Warming summer air temperatures have been linked to more frequent and sustained summer high-pressure systems over West Siberia, Russia, but not to sea ice retreat. At the same time, autumn/winter rain-on-snow (ROS) events have become more frequent and intense. Here, we review evidence for autumn atmospheric warming and precipitation increases over Arctic coastal lands in proximity to BKS ice loss. Two major ROS events during November 2006 and 2013 led to massive winter reindeer mortality episodes on the Yamal Peninsula. Fieldwork with migratory herders has revealed that the ecological and socio-economic impacts from the catastrophic 2013 event will unfold for years to come. The suggested link between sea ice loss, more frequent and intense ROS events and high reindeer mortality has serious implications for the future of tundra Nenets nomadism.

Those of you who want to see fundamental changes in human society? You need to recruit better sales people. The ones who have taken the jobs now can't sell sh#t.

Oh and a replacement for fossil fuels... that would be good too.

DMT

If you look around the planet, the countries where the people do those things - like China, India - have the worst environmental problems.

The U.S. Geological Survey has made its largest discovery of recoverable crude ever under parts of West Texas, the federal agency announced Tuesday.

A recent assessment found the “Wolfcamp shale” geologic formation in the Midland area holds an estimated 20 billion barrels of accessible oil along with 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 1.6 billion barrels of natural gas liquids. That’s three times higher than the amount of recoverable crude the agency found in the Bakken-Three Forks region in the upper midwest in 2013, making it “the largest estimated continuous oil accumulation that USGS has assessed in the United States to date,” according to a statement.

“The fact that this is the largest assessment of continuous oil we have ever done just goes to show that, even in areas that have produced billions of barrels of oil, there is still the potential to find billions more,” said Walter Guidroz, program coordinator for the USGS Energy Resources Program.

carbon tax - recognized as the most effective way to efficiently change carbon emission behavior.

I think you'd rather argue about the cause ( which is already settled )

Because it is no big deal and there isn't anything we can do about it anyway.

Because it is no big deal and there isn't anything we can do about it anyway.

since the consensus science will soon be strangled of its lifeblood funds

Rick is interesting only as a study in stubborn ignorance, but then again that is the title of this thread.
So tell us Rick, in the 3.5 years you have posted 1600 times about climate, have you learned anything about the subject besides the profoundness of your own denying voice? Is denialism justified when scientists aren't all as nice to you as your 2nd grade teacher? How should it be packaged to make a pleasing breitbart trumpet?

It isn't being caused by humans therfore humans can't affect it

You know better than claiming 93% of CO2 emissions are man made Ed.

1) it looks like 96% of the CO2 going into the atmosphere is from natural sources.

and

2) When you add it all up, a net effect of increasing CO2 is due to humans, without the additional human contribution the system would be in equilibrium.