Climate Change: Why aren't more people concerned about it?

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skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 3, 2016 - 08:17pm PT
I know that I don't live my life as though climate change is as scary and real as we all know it to be, but goddamn we have a lot to be scared of. I have been watching "Years of Living Dangerously" which the first 2 episodes are from Showtime, and the most current season 3 is on National Geographic Channel.

My guess is that the petroleum companies have successfully shut us up about it because the dumbasses that believe that it isn't true wear us out with their idiotic reasoning about why it isn't true.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:19pm PT
Because the Republican Party isn't extinct. Yet.

Curt
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
Do you really think the republican party is going anywhere? They are going to continue growing due to many of the same reasons there is war in Syria, and rising right-wing nationalism in Europe: a decrease in education funding and an increase in the separation between the haves and have-nots. Ironically the reasons for much of this separation is being caused by climate change. . . and the "poor" uneducated people that follow the right-right wing are supporting people that not only deny climate change, but are actively attempting to increase the velocity that our earth warms up. . .

I believe that our country will only keep moving towards a dictatorship. . .I think Obama is a decent man and an okay president, but he has continued the tradition of grasping more power, which I believe will just continue when a majority of our congress is composed of gas corporation puppets, and I don't see Hillary Clinton doing much about climate change despite how much the right hates her she seems to be another puppet to the people with the money.
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
Because there are still unopened cases of champagne on the Titanic?
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
Why worry about it if there is nothing you can do about it? It isn't being caused by humans therefore humans can't affect it. Who says climate change is bad anyway? Maybe it is GOOD for the earth.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
that dog crapping on my lawn isn't being caused by me ergo I can't do anything about it. to wit: maybe it is good for the lawn
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
^^^^^^
Dumbest analogy I have ever heard. Not even remotely related to my comment.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:47pm PT
You're right, Skitch. Animal populations boom and bust. We're animals. Approaching the bust. Short sightedness is a characteristic of our species. Be glad you lived when you have.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Nov 3, 2016 - 10:11pm PT
Cheer up mates. I'll see you all again in hell!

DMT
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 3, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
Cheer up mates. I'll see you all again in hell!

That thought won't cheer them up.
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2016 - 10:30pm PT
Jody: please tell your God to quit being such an assshole?
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 3, 2016 - 10:42pm PT
Skitch, you are pathetic, I feel sorry for you.
Robert L

climber
Nov 4, 2016 - 12:31am PT
Why worry about it if there is nothing you can do about it? It isn't being caused by humans therefore humans can't affect it. Who says climate change is bad anyway? Maybe it is GOOD for the earth.

Irrespective of whether humans are the cause, or not, it is prudent to mitigate as far as is reasonably practicable.

While everyone seems to be lamblasting the oil tycoons, I am more concerned about the degrading soil and water quality which we are so dependent on for food. You work at a winery Jody, what would 2 degrees warmer mean for your current workplace? I get the "F the second" mantra when placing gear on hard trad leads, but it doesn't fit when it comes to setting yer grandkids up for a ghastly future.

As for the question of why more people aren't active on climate change mitigation......cognitive dissonance?

I wish school kids had better teachers.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 4, 2016 - 12:37am PT
Why worry about it if there is nothing you can do about it? It isn't being caused by humans therefore humans can't affect it. Who says climate change is bad anyway? Maybe it is GOOD for the earth.

1) There are things we can do about it.

2) It is being caused by humans.

3) Global warming is bad, unless you're a religious nutcase eagerly awaiting the rapture.

Curt
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 4, 2016 - 04:43am PT
Animal populations boom and bust. We're animals. Approaching the bust. Short sightedness is a characteristic of our species. Be glad you lived when you have.

Wayne, please tell your God to be more rational. :0)

Dingus, may I have a ride in your handbasket?
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Nov 4, 2016 - 04:59am PT
Hell is what our grandchildren will possibly experience.

Hell is worrying about their future in a world of runaway green house gasses and its effects, or their chances of surviving in a toxic environment, or of surviving a nuclear war.

Hell is manmade and here on earth, and death is the only escape from it.

Hell is for children.

Have a wonderful day!
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 4, 2016 - 06:53am PT

Irrespective of whether humans are the cause, or not, it is prudent to mitigate as far as is reasonably practicable.

If they are not the cause, how can they possibly mitigate it?
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 4, 2016 - 06:55am PT
You know, science. Or maybe: You don't know, science.

Perhaps, in the vernacular: Pray to Gawd.
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:02am PT

1) There are things we can do about it.

2) It is being caused by humans.

3) Global warming is bad, unless you're a religious nutcase eagerly awaiting the rapture.

Okay, the discussion is over. The Almighty Curt has spoken. See, He does believe in God. He thinks He is God.

He doesn't even realize they stopped calling it "global warming" years ago because it didn't fit their agenda.

Whatever they choose to call IT, the thought that we can do something about IT, that IT is being caused by humans, and that IT has catastrophic consequences, is only believed and taken as undeniable "fact" if you are an environmental nutcase quack.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:07am PT
because it didn't fit their observations

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