Climate Change: Why aren't more people concerned about it?

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skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 3, 2016 - 08:17pm PT
I know that I don't live my life as though climate change is as scary and real as we all know it to be, but goddamn we have a lot to be scared of. I have been watching "Years of Living Dangerously" which the first 2 episodes are from Showtime, and the most current season 3 is on National Geographic Channel.

My guess is that the petroleum companies have successfully shut us up about it because the dumbasses that believe that it isn't true wear us out with their idiotic reasoning about why it isn't true.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:19pm PT
Because the Republican Party isn't extinct. Yet.

Curt
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
Do you really think the republican party is going anywhere? They are going to continue growing due to many of the same reasons there is war in Syria, and rising right-wing nationalism in Europe: a decrease in education funding and an increase in the separation between the haves and have-nots. Ironically the reasons for much of this separation is being caused by climate change. . . and the "poor" uneducated people that follow the right-right wing are supporting people that not only deny climate change, but are actively attempting to increase the velocity that our earth warms up. . .

I believe that our country will only keep moving towards a dictatorship. . .I think Obama is a decent man and an okay president, but he has continued the tradition of grasping more power, which I believe will just continue when a majority of our congress is composed of gas corporation puppets, and I don't see Hillary Clinton doing much about climate change despite how much the right hates her she seems to be another puppet to the people with the money.
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
Because there are still unopened cases of champagne on the Titanic?
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
that dog crapping on my lawn isn't being caused by me ergo I can't do anything about it. to wit: maybe it is good for the lawn
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Nov 3, 2016 - 08:47pm PT
You're right, Skitch. Animal populations boom and bust. We're animals. Approaching the bust. Short sightedness is a characteristic of our species. Be glad you lived when you have.
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2016 - 10:30pm PT
Jody: please tell your God to quit being such an assshole?
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 4, 2016 - 12:37am PT
Why worry about it if there is nothing you can do about it? It isn't being caused by humans therefore humans can't affect it. Who says climate change is bad anyway? Maybe it is GOOD for the earth.

1) There are things we can do about it.

2) It is being caused by humans.

3) Global warming is bad, unless you're a religious nutcase eagerly awaiting the rapture.

Curt
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 4, 2016 - 04:43am PT
Animal populations boom and bust. We're animals. Approaching the bust. Short sightedness is a characteristic of our species. Be glad you lived when you have.

Wayne, please tell your God to be more rational. :0)

Dingus, may I have a ride in your handbasket?
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Nov 4, 2016 - 04:59am PT
Hell is what our grandchildren will possibly experience.

Hell is worrying about their future in a world of runaway green house gasses and its effects, or their chances of surviving in a toxic environment, or of surviving a nuclear war.

Hell is manmade and here on earth, and death is the only escape from it.

Hell is for children.

Have a wonderful day!
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 4, 2016 - 06:55am PT
You know, science. Or maybe: You don't know, science.

Perhaps, in the vernacular: Pray to Gawd.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:07am PT
because it didn't fit their observations

Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:13am PT
Jody - Whatever they choose to call IT, the thought that we can do something about IT, that IT is being caused by humans, and that IT has catastrophic consequences, is only believed and taken as undeniable "fact" if you are an environmental nutcase quack.

Science deniers (reality deniers) are a funny lot. Also, apparently some of "them" still call IT "global warming."

Global warming is happening now. The planet's temperature is rising. The trend is clear and unmistakable. Every one of the past 38 years has been warmer than the 20th century average. The 12 warmest years on record have all occurred since 1998. The hottest year ever recorded for the contiguous United States occurred in 2012. Globally, the average surface temperature has increased more than one degree Fahrenheit since the late 1800s. Most of that increase has occurred over just the past three decades.

We are the cause. We are overloading our atmosphere with carbon dioxide, which traps heat and steadily drives up the planet’s temperature. Where does all this carbon come from? The fossil fuels we burn for energy—coal, natural gas, and oil—plus the loss of forests due to deforestation, especially in the tropics. The scientific evidence is clear. Within the scientific community, there is no debate. An overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that global warming is happening and that human activity is the primary cause.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming#.WByW6neZMU0

Curt
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:15am PT
woe unto them that lay house unto house, field unto field...

Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:23am PT
A majority of earth's scientists have understood for some time that climate change is caused by human activity and is absolutely real. It's not even a real debate any longer among forward thinking people.

Denying a problem is not a solution unless you believe there is no problem. In that case your mind would never be changed, short of traveling 100 years into the future to see for yourself what impact our activities have had on the planet.

Building a time machine would be way more difficult than for governments, the populace, and industries to begin taking the problem of global warming and climate change seriously. Still, a time machine is a great learning tool. In fact, we already have a time machine for seeing the impact of overpopulation. It's called history.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:24am PT
A majority of earth's scientists have understood for some time that climate change is caused by human activity and is absolutely real. It's not even a real debate any longer among forward thinking people.

Ah, that would explain Jody's position.

Curt
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:25am PT
I agree, Bushman.

What do you DO?



EDTI:

You too, Curt.

What do you DO?
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:25am PT
The women on my campus do not cause rape therefore they can do nothing about getting raped.
snagglepuss

Mountain climber
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:28am PT
Jody,

1) >97% of the world's climate scientists agree it's being caused by human activity (the remaining 3% are mainly unsure).

2) The rest of the world agrees that it is being caused by human activity.

3) Most American's believe it's being caused by Human activity.

4) One shrinking group of American's believe it's a hoax BECAUSE THEIR CHOSEN POLITICIANS TELL THEM IT'S A HOAX.

5) Have you ever read the story of Noah's Arc? Remember all the proud disbelief and ridicule heaped on Noah? This is what has been done by American politicians (and their followers) on the world's climate scientists. This is Noah's Arc all over again!
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Nov 4, 2016 - 07:28am PT
Curt,
Using my point to make your point, in point, makes the point. Pointy hats to be passed all around...

Yes, I'm also part of the problem, tree service owner, fossil fuel user, and consumer. We recycle green waste and attempt to preserve the urban forest when diseased or hazard trees do not need to be removed. Still, wholesale changes could be made in our industry.

Inevitably, my hazard existence shall be removed. End of my problem, but not for the rest of us.
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