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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
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In more normal conditions, it is better to get snow than rain, because the reservoirs cannot store all the rain in winter (and still leave reservoir space for flood protection). But the reservoirs are so low that it could rain a lot at 10K and that rain would be captured. Of course, the skiers and the alpine environment would prefer snow.
But as has been pointed out, the big fear is that we get huge rainfalls and it mostly comes down in the southern CA.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:42pm PT
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Wash Supertopo of all sin !!!!!!!!!
What, it's gonna rain Ex-Lax?
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
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Notice in the sea surface temp pics on the first page comparing 1997 and 2015, 1997 being the strongest El Niño in recent times, the large blob of warm water off the coast of cali in the 2015 pic that is not present in the 1997 pic. That is a wild card and the models are shifting the above average rainfall south eastward in latest runs.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
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I like that precip map.....the heaviest is right where I live.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, CO
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Aug 14, 2015 - 06:03pm PT
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No doubt.
Looks like I need to start looking for a deal on a snowmobile.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Aug 14, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
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Well, it was just raining like hell here at the airport in Denver
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Aug 15, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
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We'll all be experts in about 8 months!!!
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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Aug 19, 2015 - 10:19pm PT
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Neither of those storms is headed for Taiwan. And we need a link to this claim about two cat 4's in the pacific being rare...
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:02am PT
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I lived for 30 years in Okinawa, just north of Taiwan and we had an average of five typhoons every year. Nothing new here.
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BigB
Mountain climber
Sin City
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:30am PT
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Actually according to the link above, it is rare. The last time it happened was 1997(during El Niño). He never said a typhoon was rare and that you couldn't have 5 in a season....
"We continue to monitor our twin typhoons set to have impacts simultaneously on separate parts of Japan by Sunday. Big thing is this is a rare event. The same country will be impacted by Typhoon (Hurricane) strength winds at the same time on Sunday morning. (Ishigaki Goni / Atsani Chichi Jima)"
http://www.westernpacificweather.com/2015/08/20/two-typhoons-in-the-same-country-at-the-same-time-goni-plus-atsani/
.... reading comprehension seems to be a lost art.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:33am PT
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Bring it on, dirt!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:56am PT
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Yes, people, read carefully. Two super typhoons at the same time.
Thanks for the links, Kunlan and BigB.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Aug 20, 2015 - 07:06am PT
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Hope rains show up like in 96'..
Still waiting for some of this...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Don't think this year is good for tropical hurricanes coming from Baja
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Yinzer
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 21, 2015 - 10:40am PT
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Having lived in LA for about 8 years now... and being an avid mammoth / sierra enthusiast as well mostly due to my older brother's powder / trout-fishing addiction... I can say that the CITY of los angeles, has shown much more intense moisture, clouds, & general pre-el-nino type conditions than I have ever seen. Not ever-ever, but I like the biggest-in-50-years guestimate...
I forget who posted above, but I agree with the thought that it wont be the grandest snow year... but more a warm and wet winter further south, in SoCal, with lots and lots of rains.... This will help but not alleviate... we need snowpack. I think it will be a decent snow year even good, but just too warm and too south to really be more than an average-plus winter, and LA being soaked for months.
Really stoked to see what's going to happen. I've been taking some rad cloud photos around LA all summer... because they are so much more juicy and prevalent than I've ever seen. Hoping to get some final months of sending in before sh#t gets too stormy and wet.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Aug 21, 2015 - 01:50pm PT
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We are all going to.....die!!!
Mudslide surfing brah
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 21, 2015 - 01:58pm PT
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be careful what you wish for!
In 1861, farmers and ranchers were praying for rain after two exceptionally dry decades. In December their prayers were answered with a vengeance, as a series of monstrous Pacific storms slammed—one after another—into the West coast of North America, from Mexico to Canada. The storms produced the most violent flooding residents had ever seen, before or since.
Sixty-six inches of rain fell in Los Angeles that year, more than four times the normal annual amount, causing rivers to surge over their banks, spreading muddy water for miles across the arid landscape. Large brown lakes formed on the normally dry plains between Los Angeles and the Pacific Ocean, even covering vast areas of the Mojave Desert. In and around Anaheim, , flooding of the Santa Ana River created an inland sea four feet deep, stretching up to four miles from the river and lasting four weeks.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/atmospheric-rivers-california-megaflood-lessons-from-forgotten-catastrophe/
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 21, 2015 - 02:30pm PT
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That's a fascinating account, TGT. Thanks for the share.
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