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Ed H
Trad climber
Santa Rosa, CA
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Aug 13, 2015 - 12:24pm PT
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Ward Canyon freshies!
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Aug 13, 2015 - 12:35pm PT
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Should I book plane tix now?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Aug 13, 2015 - 01:25pm PT
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I'll believe it when I see it
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Aug 13, 2015 - 03:59pm PT
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Ha!!! You and me both pyro. Anyone remember this warning last winter? The storm was a bust.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 13, 2015 - 04:03pm PT
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"I'll believe it when I see it"
Werd.
Did I just agree with pyro????????
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 13, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
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What, El Chapo has announced his successor?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 13, 2015 - 04:43pm PT
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El Niņos never hit until like February.
We'll be on this same thread next December and January saying "El Niņo my ASS! It hasn't rained since August".
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 13, 2015 - 06:00pm PT
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Reno will get to test its downtown Truckee river flood abatement project..
I like science.. buying a season ski pass for the first time in a few years.
Bring on the pow!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Aug 13, 2015 - 06:04pm PT
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Ummmm....we were going to forego winter (or whatever it's been) and sail to Mexico in Dec.
Now, not sure what to do. There are some options.
Susan
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 13, 2015 - 06:08pm PT
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Depends on what patterns the jetstream sets into over the winter. Could take all the moisture to the SE instead of Cali. Either way, Cali could just be returning to drier conditions after an unusually long run of wet climate:
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Aug 13, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
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Ah, it's in the models and they never ever agree-current consensus from my weather guru in NZ is El Nino will max out in Nov but maintain until late March and it is far far from being the most powerful ever.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2015 - 11:36am PT
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Holy moly...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 14, 2015 - 11:39am PT
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BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Aug 14, 2015 - 11:46am PT
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My snowblower has only been used 3-4 times in 4 years. We are due.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 11:59am PT
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I'll believe it when I ski it. That warm water off the coast could mean warm storms which is not good for breaking our drought. We need snow, not rain events up to 10, 11 and 12k.
If El Nino does indeed produce more precip, it typically favors southern CA. I'd be more concerned about flash floods and mudslides south of Fresno more than anything at this point. I'd be happy with an average year in Tahoe.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:09pm PT
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I'm frightened and excited at the same time.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
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Got my gutters cleaned out yesterday...mostly because they overflowed in recent thunderstorms! Gonna pick up some sandbags, though.
True enough that these El Nino's tend to favor So Cal, but I'm reaaaaalllllyyy hoping there's just a liiittttllle more Gulf of Alaska cold air influence on this one that could push the snow level just a bit lower. Fingers crossed...but any precip will be appreciated.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
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You really need those embers to die down so the snow doesn't melt on contact.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
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In more normal conditions, it is better to get snow than rain, because the reservoirs cannot store all the rain in winter (and still leave reservoir space for flood protection). But the reservoirs are so low that it could rain a lot at 10K and that rain would be captured. Of course, the skiers and the alpine environment would prefer snow.
But as has been pointed out, the big fear is that we get huge rainfalls and it mostly comes down in the southern CA.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:42pm PT
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Wash Supertopo of all sin !!!!!!!!!
What, it's gonna rain Ex-Lax?
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
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Notice in the sea surface temp pics on the first page comparing 1997 and 2015, 1997 being the strongest El Niņo in recent times, the large blob of warm water off the coast of cali in the 2015 pic that is not present in the 1997 pic. That is a wild card and the models are shifting the above average rainfall south eastward in latest runs.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
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I like that precip map.....the heaviest is right where I live.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, CO
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Aug 14, 2015 - 06:03pm PT
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No doubt.
Looks like I need to start looking for a deal on a snowmobile.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Aug 14, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
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Well, it was just raining like hell here at the airport in Denver
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Aug 15, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
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We'll all be experts in about 8 months!!!
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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Aug 19, 2015 - 10:19pm PT
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Neither of those storms is headed for Taiwan. And we need a link to this claim about two cat 4's in the pacific being rare...
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:02am PT
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I lived for 30 years in Okinawa, just north of Taiwan and we had an average of five typhoons every year. Nothing new here.
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BigB
Mountain climber
Sin City
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:30am PT
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Actually according to the link above, it is rare. The last time it happened was 1997(during El Niņo). He never said a typhoon was rare and that you couldn't have 5 in a season....
"We continue to monitor our twin typhoons set to have impacts simultaneously on separate parts of Japan by Sunday. Big thing is this is a rare event. The same country will be impacted by Typhoon (Hurricane) strength winds at the same time on Sunday morning. (Ishigaki Goni / Atsani Chichi Jima)"
http://www.westernpacificweather.com/2015/08/20/two-typhoons-in-the-same-country-at-the-same-time-goni-plus-atsani/
.... reading comprehension seems to be a lost art.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:33am PT
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Bring it on, dirt!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 20, 2015 - 06:56am PT
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Yes, people, read carefully. Two super typhoons at the same time.
Thanks for the links, Kunlan and BigB.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Aug 20, 2015 - 07:06am PT
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Hope rains show up like in 96'..
Still waiting for some of this...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Don't think this year is good for tropical hurricanes coming from Baja
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Yinzer
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 21, 2015 - 10:40am PT
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Having lived in LA for about 8 years now... and being an avid mammoth / sierra enthusiast as well mostly due to my older brother's powder / trout-fishing addiction... I can say that the CITY of los angeles, has shown much more intense moisture, clouds, & general pre-el-nino type conditions than I have ever seen. Not ever-ever, but I like the biggest-in-50-years guestimate...
I forget who posted above, but I agree with the thought that it wont be the grandest snow year... but more a warm and wet winter further south, in SoCal, with lots and lots of rains.... This will help but not alleviate... we need snowpack. I think it will be a decent snow year even good, but just too warm and too south to really be more than an average-plus winter, and LA being soaked for months.
Really stoked to see what's going to happen. I've been taking some rad cloud photos around LA all summer... because they are so much more juicy and prevalent than I've ever seen. Hoping to get some final months of sending in before sh#t gets too stormy and wet.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Aug 21, 2015 - 01:50pm PT
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We are all going to.....die!!!
Mudslide surfing brah
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 21, 2015 - 01:58pm PT
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be careful what you wish for!
In 1861, farmers and ranchers were praying for rain after two exceptionally dry decades. In December their prayers were answered with a vengeance, as a series of monstrous Pacific storms slammedone after anotherinto the West coast of North America, from Mexico to Canada. The storms produced the most violent flooding residents had ever seen, before or since.
Sixty-six inches of rain fell in Los Angeles that year, more than four times the normal annual amount, causing rivers to surge over their banks, spreading muddy water for miles across the arid landscape. Large brown lakes formed on the normally dry plains between Los Angeles and the Pacific Ocean, even covering vast areas of the Mojave Desert. In and around Anaheim, , flooding of the Santa Ana River created an inland sea four feet deep, stretching up to four miles from the river and lasting four weeks.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/atmospheric-rivers-california-megaflood-lessons-from-forgotten-catastrophe/
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 21, 2015 - 02:30pm PT
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That's a fascinating account, TGT. Thanks for the share.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 21, 2015 - 02:32pm PT
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Apparently most of the San Joaquin Valley was a big lake also.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 21, 2015 - 02:59pm PT
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Reilly.. that same Winter of 1861-62, the state capital had to be moved to SF for almost the entire year all due to Sacramento being completely flooded out. Up to ten feet of water for several months.
And the rest of the Westcoast, they too got flooded out, big time as TGT noted above.
So yes, ya'll be very careful what you ask for cus it can and will happen again. And from what I gather, them levee's aint in too good of shape these days.
"The rainy season commenced on the 8th of November, and for four weeks, with scarcely any intermission, the rain continued to fall very gently in San Francisco, but in heavy showers in the interior. According to the statement of a Grass Valley paper, nine inches of rain fell there in thirty-six hours on the 7th and 8th inst. Whether, it is possible that so much rain could fall in thirty-six hours I will not decide; but it is certain that, the amount was great, for the next day the river-beds were full almost to the hilltops. The North Fork of the American River at Auburn rose thirty-five feet, and in many other mountain streams the rise was almost as great. On the 9th the flood reached the low land of the Sacramento Valley."[7]
The city of Sacramento suffered the worst damage due to its levee, which lay in a wide and flat valley at the junction of the American and Sacramento Rivers. When the floodwaters entered from the higher ground on the East, the levee acted as a dam to keep the water in the city rather than let it flow out. Soon the water level was 10 feet (3.0 m) higher inside than the level of the Sacramento River on the outside. Dozens of wood houses, some two stories high, were simply lifted up and carried off by the flood, as was "all the firewood, most of the fences and sheds, all the poultry, cats, rats and many of the cows and horses". A chain gang was sent to break open the levee, which, when it finally broke, allowed the waters to rush out of the city center and lowered the level of the flooding by 56 feet (1.51.8 m). Eventually the waters fell to a level on a par with the lowest part of the city.[7] From 1861 to 1862, the state capital was moved from flooded Sacramento to San Francisco.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862
Edit: If this all happens again, ya'll can kiss getting into the Valley for a longass time cus them roads on westside into the Ditch, well, they'll be washed away by the Merced that will rise some 10-20 feet and stay there for a couple of months.
Werner and crew in the Valley will be resupplied by these from the CANG for at least six months...
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 21, 2015 - 03:22pm PT
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One of the best things out there on Southern Cal and the flood
http://www.redlandsfortnightly.org/papers/Taylor06.htm
The U. S. Army Corps of Engineers in their planning for Southern California could not have made use of palaeoclimatic and archaeological evidence recently published in the Journal Holocene. Here Dr. Arndt Schimmelmann, senior scientist of the Department of Geological Sciences at Indiana University along with his colleagues found evidence for cyclic simultaneous flooding not only in Southern California, but also in Mesoamerica and South America.
These findings, published in 2003, were based on sediment cores taken in the Santa Barbara Basin. These cores contain tell tale sedimentary deposits, called varves, and they date back 2000 years. Measuring the thickness of the varve gives an index of associated erosion during that particular year. These have occurred in approximate 200 year intervals centering during the following years: 212, 440, 603, 1029, 1418, and 1605. It is observed that bicentennial flooding in the Santa Barbara area was skipped only three times and never twice in a row. The quasi-periodicity of approximately 200 years for Southern California floods matches the approximate 200 year periodicities found in a variety of high-resolution palaeoclimatic archives, and more importantly a 208 year cycle of solar activity and inferred associated changes in atmospheric circulation. The last skip was in the early 1800s leading the authors to conclude: we foresee the possibility for a historically unprecedented flooding in southern California during the first half of the century. (Schimmelmann, 2003 p.770)
When you drive out the 10 there are some energy dissipaters in the Santa Ana river bed. Those are there because the flow in the river at that point in the 1862 flood was 330,000 cubic feet per second. (about the same as the Mississippi)
Prado dam may buy Orange Co some time next time it happens, but there's going to be a Lake San Bernardino/Riverside for months.
(link to flood map)
http://cambriahistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Great-Drought-Flood-Map.jpg
This flood has always held a bit of fascination for me. As a second generation native one side of the family were orange ranchers and I heard stories as a kid about the flood that had happened a generation or two before them. It washed the Santa Ana river down to bedrock and evidently completely changed the local ecology and microclimate.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 28, 2015 - 05:53pm PT
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'97 El Nino stronger at this time of year (left), but current El Nino is quite impressive for warmth over a much larger area (right)
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 28, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
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The large blob of warm water that kept storms out of the western US last winter is still in the same place so don't get too worked up over the el nino hype...
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2015 - 09:19pm PT
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The blob seems to be the wild card.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Let's hear it for the Truly Tenacious Trough!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Not to mention the first to have formed east of the Cape Verde Islands.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2015 - 01:07pm PT
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Let's hear it for the Truly Tenacious Trough!
And the Bouncy Bodacious Boobies!
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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IS this the new boob thread then?
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Yeah but the paddling in Sespe Creek is gonna kill it.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Chief,
I have paddled Sespe 3 times now, 2 times by kayak and once in a R2 or 2 man self bailer. Sespe IMO is one of the best kayak runs in California, 15 miles of class3 and then the bottom drops out for 15 miles of class 4-5. I have been more into pack rafting of late so i'm hoping for a big water year so I can give it a shot in the spring.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Creek Boated it back in the Spring of 84. Man was it wicked bitchen!!!
EDIT: We used to fly from Mugu up to Rose Valley to do our Confined Area Landing training. That Spring we took up our Creekers up in the helo and got dropped off just above Lion CG and would get extracted at Timber Creek.
Oh man!
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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84? man that was way back when i used to see pictures of the first descent on the walls at Real Cheap in Ventura. I finally got around to doing in 1992, then again in 97 and most recently rafted it in 2006. There are some crazy drops in there and some really great remote walls that most likely have never been climbed.
I'm at the fire station today or I'd post up some pictures.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Yup on the shots at REAL CHEAP SPORTS. I worked there p/t in 80 and 81 when I wasn't on the Ice or in Lemoore flying SAR.
I remember YC and Rick talking about the "Creek" and how it was in "Epic" conditions.
IF I remember correctly, one of the stories in Largo's book consists of one them dudes that paddled the Creek from just above Munson Creek all the down into Filmore Wash just above 126.
Way bad ass!!!!!
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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All three times we started at Lions Camp or near Piedra Blanca and went all the way to the 126. The first trip we spent 4 days on the river, the second kayak trip I was a much better paddler and we did it in 2 days and our raft trip was 4 days due to all the portaging around the giant boulders and low water. Would love to get back in there.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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A little El Nino steep creeking love.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Sorry for the poor quality, many of these are pictures of pictures, I dont have a scanner yet.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Yup! Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. Them photos bring back some very fond memories.
TFPU.
All my photos were destroyed in a fire that hit my storage unit in Vista. That included over 1800 slides of Antarctic Ops and all my climbing prior to the fire in 1987. Sucks big time.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Anybody got current beta on where Godzilla is these days?
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Here's what the steepest River in North America looks like in a drought (Kaweah). You know it's hardcore when my two year old rides in the front of the IK.
Bring on the water please!!!
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Taken 30 minutes after my every morning walk with my Wife and four Kids...
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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That looks like enough snow up high that I will cancel plans for next weekend for something like Carl Heller or Humphreys east arętes.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 15, 2015 - 06:09pm PT
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 15, 2015 - 06:25pm PT
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We'll see!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Oct 15, 2015 - 07:38pm PT
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The Chief...Good observation on the ill Nino precursor at SCV...Sure you wanna miss this winter in the Sierra..? rj
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Oct 15, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
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Not moving to Priest River till next Spring RJ!!! The fishing on the Upper and Lower O's as well as all the Bass Ponds on the O-Valley this Winter is gonna be... Fabulous to say the least.
At the rate things are brewing up, all them folks screaming for "Rain Snow Rain" are going to be praying for DROUGHT by February. Mark my words.
The first major MJO may be growing and on the move in the IO which can strengthen the current Kelvin Wave located in the Central Pacific. CPC is stating that if it actually crosses into the Western Pacific, it can strengthen and intensify that K-Wave. "If that emerging signal is a MJO, that would most likely bring a major pattern change to the eastern pacific that last week of October by flipping the PNA to Negative." Meaning that the shet could indeed begin earlier than expected.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Oct 23, 2015 - 07:55am PT
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200mph sustained winds hitting Mexico?
HURRICANE PATRICIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 15
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202015
1000 AM CDT FRI OCT 23 2015
There has been little change in the satellite appearance of Patricia
since the earlier Hurricane Hunter aircraft left the hurricane.
Based on this, the initial intensity remains 175 kt (200mph). Some
fluctuations in strength are possible before landfall, but it is
expected that Patricia will make landfall as a Category 5 hurricane
in southwestern Mexico in less than 12 hours. After landfall, a
combination of the mountainous terrain of Mexico and increasing
shear should cause the cyclone to rapidly weaken, with the system
likely to dissipate completely after 36 hours.
The hurricane has turned northward since the previous advisory
and the initial motion is now 005/9. Patricia is about to
recurve into the westerlies between a mid-level anticyclone to its
east and a deep-layer trough over northwestern Mexico and the
southwestern U. S. These features should steer the cyclone
generally north-northeastward across western and northern Mexico
until dissipation occurs. The new forecast track is an update of
the previous track.
The global models continue to depict the development of a cyclone
near the Texas coast over the weekend. This system should be
non-tropical in nature. However, this cyclone is expected to draw
significant amounts of moisture from Patricia's remnants, and could
result in locally heavy rainfall over portions of the northwestern
Gulf of Mexico coastal area within the next few days. Refer to
statements from local National Weather Service forecast offices for
details.
KEY MESSAGES:
1. Confidence is high that Patricia will make landfall in the
hurricane warning area along the coast of Mexico as an extremely
dangerous category 5 hurricane this afternoon or evening.
Preparations to protect life and property in the hurricane warning
area should have been completed, or rushed to completion, as
tropical storm conditions are spreading across the area. Residents
in low-lying areas near the coast in the hurricane warning area
should evacuate immediately, since the storm surge could be
catastrophic near and to the east of where the center makes
landfall.
2. In addition to the coastal impacts, very heavy rainfall is
likely to cause life-threatening flash floods and mud slides in the
Mexican states of Jalisco, Colima, Michoacan and Guerrero continuing
into Saturday.
3. At this time, the Category 5 winds are occurring over a very
small area near the center - about 15 miles across. A NOAA
Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate Patricia
before landfall to see what changes in intensity and structure have
occurred.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 23/1500Z 17.6N 105.5W 175 KT 200 MPH
12H 24/0000Z 19.8N 105.1W 130 KT 150 MPH...INLAND
24H 24/1200Z 22.9N 103.6W 60 KT 70 MPH...INLAND
36H 25/0000Z 25.7N 101.6W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
48H 25/1200Z...DISSIPATED
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Oct 23, 2015 - 08:01am PT
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The Chief's "mark my words' prediction for the 2013-2014 winter.
Mark my words... the SIERRA will have 20-40% above avg AVG snowfall this season.
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frank wyman
Mountain climber
montana
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Oct 23, 2015 - 08:27am PT
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Wife and I leaving for Zihuatanejo on monday the 2nd of November for 2 weeks. I hope our hotel is still there. it is located on a steep hill overlooking the ocean. I'm glad we are not leaving this week. Hope and pray that no one dies in this Hurricane.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 23, 2015 - 08:31am PT
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Aw f*#k, flying into Mexico on Sunday.
Dude, El Chapo doesn't need yer pity, or yer help.
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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Oct 23, 2015 - 02:40pm PT
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California was ravaged by fire all summer and it wasn't even fire season. I've been saying that the future of California depends on the race between El Nino and Santa Ana. Mercifully, so far El Nino seems to be ahead.
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Yinzer
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 23, 2015 - 05:32pm PT
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friend above me is pretty right ^^
either way, things are out of balance. I've been a mammoth lakes visitor via Los Angeles since about '06 and I've seen great snow years and then these last 3. This summer makes me believe the hype... wild clouds, super low, really moist for how droughty it is.
We need two or three or five decent snow years though in the next 10 and alot of changes in behavior. It's good the population here has been shown to be pretty responsive to conserving (including at the state level)
<3 <3 <3 you supertopo. Noobie here. Trying to rack up miles at Tahquitz and the needles until they're rained out and snowed in...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 24, 2015 - 10:13am PT
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Donde esta El Nino?
No esta aqui....
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 24, 2015 - 01:46pm PT
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si,como tiene que estar aquí por ahora.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 24, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
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Yeah...wasn't Godzilla supposed to peak by late fall, and persist into spring '16?
I woulda thought that if it was going peak by late fall, it would be in gear by now...or maybe there's a tidal wave sneaking up behind us all....
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Nov 17, 2015 - 07:04am PT
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GIStemp: October is hottest recorded month.
A comparison to some previous El-Nino years:
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 17, 2015 - 07:08am PT
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8:00 am......20 inches of new snow on my deck in Ouray!
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired Climber
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Nov 17, 2015 - 07:53am PT
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I am a skeptic.
Jim, isn't that normal for this time of year?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 17, 2015 - 08:07am PT
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November snowfall in the San Juan Mountains has definetly been above normal....people are reporting the best early season backcountry skiing in years.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 17, 2015 - 08:20am PT
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In the So Cal area, we've had more precip over the summer and fall than in recent years- set a minor record, actually- but nothing Godzilla-like.
Gotta keep reminding myself that El Nino is characterized by multiple meteorologic facets, and precipitation (esp. in the specific area of the Cali Coast) can vary quite a bit, and still be considered an El Nino.
Still, got the fingers crossed. We could use a good onslaught!
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nov 17, 2015 - 08:34am PT
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The Tahoe/Reno area enjoyed an above average summer precipitation total and because of a series of November winter storms the ski areas are opening ahead of schedule. When I left on the 13th the temp in Palomino Valley was 6f. In Ak , I had first snowfall at my cabin at 2500' on the Glenn Hwy on Aug. 30. The current snow totals seem to be in the normal range, but the november temps are a little on the low normal side, currently -13f. Definitely a good start on a strong winter season up and down the west coast. We'll see if it continues.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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My money is on California being bypassed for the duration of El Niņo 2015.
BTW, did y'all note that northern England has been hit with a '100 year flood'
for the second time in 10 years?
Norway is also being heavily flooded, as we speak.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
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Models for later this week show significant precip hitting Northern California south of the area getting nailed in the Doppler image you posted.
Most of the El Niņo related precip is supposed to hit central and northern ca next month.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Yeah, I kinda figured. So Cal is gonna be hurting for a long time. Meh.
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Ed H
Trad climber
Santa Rosa, CA
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Byran Allegretto is forecasting up to 5 ft of snow over the Tahoe crest by Monday. I'll be the grey Prius with chains inching over the summit on Friday...
http://opensnow.com/dailysnow/tahoe
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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BTW, did y'all note that northern England has been hit with a '100 year flood'
My mother in-law is in town from England heard all about it.. big flood
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Reilly-What denomination $?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Dec 28, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
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Unusual El-Nino effect?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Dec 28, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
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Copied from chief FB page..
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 09:25am PT
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I read an article that says the blob has been wiped out by El Niņo. If so, I'm curious if the effects of El Niņo will last beyond 2015-2016, since the Blob blocked a lot of storms from entering California.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Dec 30, 2015 - 12:20pm PT
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I believe the Blob is taking a big old morning after too many cocktails and hotdogs s hit on south central Alaska right now.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 31, 2015 - 01:17am PT
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hey there say, ed... thanks so much...
wow, i got family in the tip of tex and it is lowlands, to begin with...
hope things won't get too out-of-hand, :(
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 20, 2016 - 01:45pm PT
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2015 global average temp blasts the old(1 year old) record.
From our own Chiloe:
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 24, 2016 - 08:43am PT
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Here's a graph comparing strong El Ninos. Could be another jump in global temps in the next few months.
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Adventurer
Mountain climber
Virginia
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Jan 24, 2016 - 09:52am PT
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Some guy named Jonas came by and dropped off 29 inches of snow yesterday in northern Virginia. Not sure how much rain that would equate to but if you're short, you're welcome to come and pick it up.
We're giving it away for FREE!!!
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jan 24, 2016 - 05:26pm PT
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6 feet of sand has been washed away from our local beach, which rarely has any shape, and my 21 year old son is experiencing his first El Nino winter.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 24, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
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We're still below average for the year on rainfall.
El Nino is a BUST.
yep! STILL waiting for the RAIN..
CONTRACTOR nice pic!
this was ZUMA two days ago..
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jan 24, 2016 - 06:53pm PT
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Pyro, I'm sure your beach breaks are looking good. Where's your local spot?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 24, 2016 - 07:40pm PT
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Malibu to El Capitan Jalama..
Im OCD with SURFLINE OB SANFRAN..
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 24, 2016 - 07:42pm PT
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California snow water content is above normal for north and central Sierra while south is a little below normal.
Overall, the reservoirs are only half-full, so we need much more.
So this El-Nino is not a complete bust, with 2 more significant rain/snow months left in the season.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jan 24, 2016 - 07:54pm PT
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Just because it's an El Nino winter doesn't guarantee a big winter...Febuary and March are still to come and we all know that these 2 months can be huge for snow fall...Be patient Pyro...
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 24, 2016 - 07:57pm PT
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25 inches of rain in Yosemite Valley since Oct 2015 till now Jan 24 2016
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jan 24, 2016 - 08:24pm PT
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Pyro- I've surfed Malibu to Rincon with my family, quite a bit over the past five years, as an alternative to Baja trips. I love it up there and the Silver Strand locals always roll out the red carpet-haha. I've heard good things about Capitan as well.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 24, 2016 - 08:26pm PT
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Nice my co worker buddy surfs strand this time a year..
El nino should ckean that sandbar out..
Wbraun.. VALLEY i love but where is the FLOODING..
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kpinwalla2
Social climber
WA
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Jan 27, 2016 - 06:53am PT
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Looks like El Nino is getting ready to sucker punch California with the big red fist. This is the forecast map of atmospheric water for Friday and red and pink means very wet. Atmospheric river makes landfall - good for snow pack and drought, bad for landslides and flooding.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:03am PT
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Bring it!
Yay!
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 08:37am PT
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Cool! That does look like a fist!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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El nino is a total bust..
High pressure shutting us down.. almost 80degrees warm at 445am ... this sucks. I want rain
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DonC
climber
CA
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organizations use different methods to determine what is an El Nino year. For NOAA generally its any year where average temps at certain southern ocean buoys are .9 degrees greater than average. Of the 23 El Nino years in the last 6 decades, 1/3 bring less than average rain, 1/3 average, and 1/3 greater than average.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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organizations use different methods to determine what is an El Nino year. For NOAA generally its any year where average temps at certain southern ocean buoys are .9 degrees greater than average. Of the 23 El Nino years in the last 6 decades, 1/3 bring less than average rain, 1/3 average, and 1/3 greater than average.
Except that Bill Patzert, climatologist at JPL, said there was a ninety-five percent chance that there would be above average precipitation. Granted the winter isn't over yet, but the rainy season in SoCal usually ends about the first of April.
Last I read was that rainfall in the southern part of the state was eighty percent of normal.
If Patzert's prediction doesn't come to fruition, he will have some 'splaining to do.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I'm gonna short El Niņo stock.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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El Nino is a bust.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Almost 90 F in OC today.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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73 in Bishop today, wonderful climbing weather. Come on, where's winter ?? Let's get some snow in the mountains.
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Yinzer
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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we all feared it wouldn't really happen : (
praying for snow. this summer is going to be brutal.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Feb 10, 2016 - 06:26am PT
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This is a gambling ship that was wrecked during a storm in the 30's on our local beach.
It hasn't been this exposed since the 1983 El Nino event and most winters you never know it's there.
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Gunkie
climber
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Feb 10, 2016 - 08:32am PT
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Just came back east from surfing La Jolla Shores/Scripps, Black's, and Del Mar this past weekend. Nice waves, even got cleaned by a canyon set at Black's. My 13 year old son thought that was just awesome.
Plus, the east coast has been getting lit up with good surf this season.
I like this El Nino so far and it seems generally better than the 1998 El Nino in terms of surfing conditions on both coasts.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Feb 10, 2016 - 09:42am PT
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El Nino is definitely giving us surfers some pretty consistent sizable waves. We may not be getting so much rain here in so-cal but El Nino is out there and working.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 10, 2016 - 04:03pm PT
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You guys are assuming that El Nino is responsible for some swells but that
seems an unfounded assumption.
THIS is why any precip is going far to the north of California for a while.
That High of 1036 mb parked over the Great Basin is extremely high (1013 being normal)
and it ain't budging.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Feb 10, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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Damn NOAA weather forecasters.
Obviously a bunch of potsmoking, irresponsible liberal gov't lackeys.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:37am PT
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When folks are saying El Niņo is a bust, I think they are referring to all the table pounding and "95% chance of floods" commentary.
We have had squat for rain in socal.
We'll see what happens in the next few months.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:41am PT
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How many more weeks?
Not that many before el nino is over.. total bust
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2016 - 06:45am PT
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It's still too early to deem it el busto. El Niņo-related rainfall typically occurs late in the season.
But, it's not looking good.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 11, 2016 - 01:50pm PT
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ALL of North America is one big high! Fuggetabout El Nino!
Those highs are like a wall!
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 17, 2016 - 08:27am PT
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I thought that one of the aspects of El Niņo, besides a wetter southwest, was a warmer, and drier northeast. Well, we see how that's working out.
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