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mike m
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black hills
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Sep 26, 2014 - 07:08pm PT
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They play nothing but these bands on the real gratest bands channel on pandora. Get your own channel or you will be dead soon.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 26, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
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Funny sh#t here! Now that I'm on a home computer I can't wait to watch those videos of the guys dishing dirt on the pathetic dirigible.
Led zeppelin is the uk version of the monkees, a totally pretend band, made up to sell 45's and tee shirts to teeny boppers! Except at their prime they were all the cute little English one... How the nostalgia for that time slipped into giving them musical prowess, is beyond me, I guess I overestimate the acumen of the human race...
As far as their contemporaries? It's all Kinks baby! Don't even mention the Liverpudlians!
Better guitarists? Well yeah! From the uk alone, jeff beck, Eric Clapton and of course JIMI, the ultimate Britt axman, even if he was American!
A note though, of the three groups mentioned Keith Richards is the Only guitarist with a distinct guitar voice, technical proficiency not withstanding. Jimmy page = walmart. Townsend? An excellent student who never found himself; the windmill guitar? All Richards' as they Both have acknowledged!
imagine the Who or the Stones showing up Zep? Rocking harder or heavier? Having more charisma? It's literally fantastic to think that Zeppelin wouldn't swagger to a blow-out win."...
Locker is that a joke? It's already happened, it's called history! The zep flat out ain't good enough! Led zep with charisma? Kieth could lasar eye stare down the lot of them, like the mashed potatoes they are!
And yeah, Dingus, my thumb is already hurting from the coming show down with Daphne's determined digits!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Sep 26, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
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I'm pretty surprised where folks are throwing down there chips in this thread. It would be terrible to lose the songs from any of these bands, even if the old curmudgeons Pete and Keith do debase themselves with their judgments. Sort of like how Ginger Baker looks like a fool in interviews, even if he was one of the most badass musicians of his day.
I tried hard to like The Who- they have a small handful of all-time classic great songs, truly on my short list of favorites, and the concept of Tommy is interesting, but by and large I find myself bored listening to most of their music. I always feel disappointed... maybe I just never tapped into the right albums or live shows?
Led Zep... they went through some stylistic changes and you can't pin them down as just a blues cover band. They started with something and took it to another level in the realm of blues and celtic acoustic stuff too and glorious mainstream rock. Nobody rocked harder at the time, and yet they weren't just hiding behind distortion and grunting/screaming like so many metal bands that came after. Sure there was plenty of heaviness, plenty of grunting/mini-O's from Plant, but look at "All of My Love" or "Kashmir" or "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You". They became an object of emulation for the next generation. Maybe its a toss-up between the Stones and Zep who has more songs that stand on their own as all-time greats. But both have quite a lot in a variety of rock flavors.
No mention yet of another guitar giant from the era who has aged with grace, has a good attitude (at least in public appearances), and is still making kick-ass new music nearly 50 years later. Like Clapton, he never strayed too far from his niche, but with such a kick-ass niche he doesn't have to stray. He's got plenty to give to the world exploring this area more deeply:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Who is still making NEW music that rocks generations 45 years apart?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Speaking of Clapton and Santana together, here's a little gem:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 26, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
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Went to an all day get down outside Seattle: Ike and Tina, Youngbloods, Spirit, Vanilla Fudge.
Then the Doors came on and it was like The Apocalypse, but in a good way. What could
possibly top them? We couldn't understand why this other band was closing. And then they
lit into 'A Whole Lotta Love' and we understood.
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Sep 26, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
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Jim Brennan
Rush will always be the equivalent of tooth whitening toothpaste. Technically brilliant Prog Rock but eternally stuck in the trap of your musical drain.
But, but I thought Canada was the superior culture, the last great hope for society and the rest of us were just following your lead. You guys haven't been lying to us all these years have you?
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Bob Harrington
climber
Bishop, California
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
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Matter of one's taste I guess. Totally agree with Keith and Pete, but can see what people like about Led Zepplin. I just don't (didn't?) like it that much.
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
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The Rollings Stones are actually still
Playing as a band.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
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It's the popularity that kills the two crybabies.
Zeppelin - 300 million albums sold
Who - 100 million
Stones - 200 million
Suck that Pete!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
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Haha zep a monkees like band. So far off. Jimmy page put together the best musicians he could find and financed and recorded their first album on their own before they even talked to a record company. They held all the chips and demanded absolute artistic freedom from the get go. This was another huge development they ushered in. As opposed to the who who copied the kinks sound at first and the stones who covered buddy holly and were given a Beatles throwaway song as their first ''original' hit.
Have you ever learned to play Bonham or Page? .Any musician whose tried can't help but come away with massive respect.
You can trash their music all you want, it's all personal taste, but to deny their musicianship is just silly.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:18pm PT
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Totally with you on Santana Nut! I was thinking this was a uk show
Respectfully though, LZ was hardly, the hardest rocking group of their time! Possibly the harder rocking totally commercial sell out band. That was a time that included the Wailers, screaming Jay Hawkins, Jefferson Airplane, flying burrito brothers, quicksilver, the allman bros, Elgin bishop, Paul butterfield, the Ramones, the dead, the residents, and of course chuck berry and little Richard, all the bands that zep wanted to catch up with, and never could, except in sales.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:25pm PT
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The only major band of their day that rocked harder than Led Zeppelin was Sabbath.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
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Actually zeps sales are up there with Michael Jackson Madonna and pink Floyd. Stones are next tier down. The who is way lower.
If you combine the Beatles who are already number one with Paul McCartney the totals blow away everyone.
Hmm, Elton John. How did I miss that before. I'll have to look into tix.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
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Townshend and Richards are big babies in that they are at the point of life where they wear diapers...Nothing to be ashamed of...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 26, 2014 - 08:57pm PT
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"The best American blues cover band"?
I take it you've never heard Cream, jimi Hendrix, elvyn bishop, Darrell trucks, the jerry Garcia band, and many others...
The thing that bugs me about Zep is that they could play, and they knew the idiom and yet, they consciously chose to be the lowest common denominator, and by choice became a frat boy party band, when individually and collectivly they could each have done so much more.
That's fine, everybody has to make a living. But to compare them to real musicians is a joke.
Their best moments were aspiring to be rush, arrowsmith, journey. ( Edit, Genisis, not journey ) w/o Peter Gabriel, Styx etc. they never were Dylan, Cream, gill scott heron, Laurie Anderson, Mlles, Coltrane,Patsy Cline or any number of people who actually "Led" music into new interesting ways.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 26, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
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And, btw I finally saw those initial videos, and Pete (I'm not a who fan, walked out on them at "Who's Dead" in oakland 76) and Keith pretty much nailed my own feelings;even if they might really be, crybabies in other parts of life.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 26, 2014 - 09:11pm PT
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Sorry Jim, I maent Genisis.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Sep 26, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
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I prefer King Crimson over all three.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 26, 2014 - 10:10pm PT
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No, that is what punk rebelled against
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Sep 27, 2014 - 07:36am PT
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"Fuk off, all of ya."
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