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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jul 17, 2014 - 05:38pm PT
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I heard on CNN that some intercepted communications indicate that the separatists thought that they had shot down a Ukrainian Antonov An-26 military transport.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
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They did that about a week ago.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 17, 2014 - 06:10pm PT
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Obama is out of control and can't control his foreign policies.
Just want to let that simmer.
TFPU, WBraun.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
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the intercept ^^
Sounds like a fake. The way they speak - very similar to actors speaking in Russian movies, very elaborate.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 06:22pm PT
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EVERYONE FREAK OUT FIRE WEAPONS ITS THE ONLY ANSWER
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
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I WOULD TOTALLY HIRE THOSE GUYS TO PROTECT MY CHANGE JAR
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 06:49pm PT
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Palestinian's dressed as clowns were in the cockpit...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 17, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
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Forgive TGT for missing that...it takes forever for his 386 Compaq & dialup modem to load pages.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2014 - 07:26pm PT
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Tensions with Russia and the US are at a level as high as any day of the cold war now. Never too early for a little yellow journalism eh, Ron? You don't even remember the Cold War, and I don't mean the Raygun years!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 07:57pm PT
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Werner scores again!
At time of the shootdown, it has been reported that Vlad was returning from BRICS conference in Brazil to Moscow. It's possible that this plane was mistaken for his plane.
A couple of problems though.
Why would Putin's pilot fly over a zone where other planes were shot down?
Putin's plane would have had multiple anti-missile counter measures on board. Maybe he deployed those measures and the missile found the next nearest target. The planes were reportedly minutes apart at that airspace.
Why would pro-Russian rebels publicy show up at the crash if they shot it down? Are they that stupid, or just concerned?
We need more info. I cannot see Putin doing this. He's more clever than this. He'd have known that this would be blamed on him.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:24pm PT
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Piutin's IL-96 painted almost the same colors as Malaysian Air 777, except it has a Russian flag on it's tail and large "RUSSIA" instead of 'Malaysian Air' on it. And 4 engines, a little detail. Size is about the same. It supposedly was in the are at the moment of the crash.
There is a report of 2 Ukrainian military jets closely following the 777 3 minutes before the crash.
All that can be another fake anyways.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:27pm PT
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Werner...What channel is your pirate , radio , talk-show on...? rj
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:33pm PT
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BTW to support Ron's take on Malaysian Air responsibility. Over the last 2 months over that area of conflict about 20 aircrafts were downed, something like 5 bombers, 2 transport planes, the rest is military helicopters. Most were taken down by smaller missals with about 3000-3500m celling.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
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Werner...What channel is your pirate , radio , talk-show on...? rj
WBSA 91.1
All mental speculation, all the time
*Not to be confused with non-mental speculation
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
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Anybody who believes any 'reports' from Russia or the Ukraine has been owned. These are
the people who invented disinformation.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
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Hey now...I'm sure there will be a full and accurate disclosure of whatever is on the black boxes
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
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Yes - that's why I watch Wolf Blitzer!
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