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HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 8, 2014 - 01:37pm PT
Reilly
if you're so certain, take it up with the BBC.
From the same article
MH-17 was 9M-MRD
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 8, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
I just might, they've been duped before. The reds are different. I seriously
doubt that a B777 would have un-painted skin (next to the red painted area).
And the first pic shows what looks like cannon/bullet holes not consistent
with a missile shootdown. The second pic is obviously legit.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Sep 8, 2014 - 02:12pm PT
Russian's shot down the airplane..f*#k'em!
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 8, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
The reds are different.
The shot up red looks scorched from the heat of the warhead blast wave.

I seriously doubt that a B777 would have un-painted skin (next to the red painted area).
more blast damage, scorching the white paint.

And the first pic shows what looks like cannon/bullet holes not consistent
with a missile shootdown.
What would you expect a missile shoot down to look like?

Depends on the missile warhead.
The BUK (SA-11) can carry a combined effects ( fragmentation - high explosive) warhead. Think of a mach 3, 70kg shotgun shell with radar proximity fuse throwing steel or tungsten rods (a couple of feet long) and ball bearings in a forward cone. Specifically designed to create exactly the kind of damage shown in the photo. Tear the crap out of the target. Disable all it's systems. Instantly destroy its airworthiness.

more than you need to know
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-9K37-Buk.html
multiple independent sources more or less agree with this article.
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