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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
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Braunini...WBSA...? I googled that and all i could find was Werner Braun Stupid Austrian..? WTF...! rj
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
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Screw the plane - anyone else notice that Israel has invaded the Gaza strip?
Go short on Oil Futures anyone?
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jul 17, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
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Hammas or Hummus - only Trader Joe's knows for sure.
I still think my 401(k) will tank tomorrow.
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Rudbud
Gym climber
Grover Beach, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
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Yer all stoopid American mental speculators.
The Ukrainian terrorists thought it was the Putinators plane.
The Putinator just flew over minutes earlier.
They missed him and thought the Malaysian airliner was him in it.
Yes it's Obama's fault ultimately.
He started this sh!t in Ukriane months ago thru the bitch Victoria Nuland and that numb f*#k terrorist McCain.
Obama is out of control and can't control his foreign policies.
All his stupid foreign policy people are out of control.
The whole Ukraine debacle was started to ultimately save the petrol-dollar.
You Americans are stooopid as the rocks in yer heads.
The dumb fuk nutcase politard Crankcase will now have another leg humper secession because he's so stoopid gay homo.
Heh heh rolls eyes .....
Werner for President! Vitaley for Vice Pres!
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 17, 2014 - 11:51pm PT
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Someone smart for president? It will break the tradition.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jul 18, 2014 - 05:49am PT
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Yeah, those Rhodes Scholar's, Harvard & Yale grads don't know anything. Climbers, now there's a bunch you want to go to for advice on foreign policy and economics.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 18, 2014 - 08:12am PT
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We once had a president that knew how to deal with murderers!
One speech and he completely galvanized world opinion.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:00am PT
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Imagine, instead of a loose missile, it was a loose nuke. We could be waking up to a warning to stay inside as the radioactive cloud passes overhead.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:03am PT
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The FAA has forbidden US airlines from over-flying the Crimea since April. Apparently all
those airlines thought that saving a few thousands on fuel was worth it.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:14am PT
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Nice clip of Reagan.
Anybody remember that we shot down an airliner too?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:15am PT
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well,that one was attacking a US naval vessel. ;-|
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:16am PT
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Everything points to the separatists and a captured missile system.
But, the separatists are a wholly owned subsidiary of the GRU and the Putin thugocracy.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:18am PT
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Reagan always gets my vote as the worst president in modern history. Lovable dunce? Not so lovable according to his kids.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:24am PT
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Ron, looks like they are the only ones who has the capabilities. 10000m is pretty high.
Recently the 'terrorists' acquired 1 Ukrainian SU 25 bomber, and even used it once in the fight. In response, Ukrainian Buks were deployed into the area of conflict.
The 'terrorist' also have 1 Buk launcher, but with no supporting equipment it is efficient up to 6000m ceiling. They must have used it to shut down Ukrainian transport plane on Monday - it was flying too high for shoulder-launcher missiles. My guess that technically, if you are lucky, you could hit a plane at 10000m with a stand-alone Buk launcher as well.
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Baggins
Boulder climber
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:31am PT
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Obama just confirmed that the missile originated from separatist held territory. This plus the intercepted phone call of the separatists describing the targeting and downing of a "ukraine military supply plane" which they consequently realize is in fact a civilian plane (ie MH17) makes the case sealed tight, no doubt left now. Whats next for the region is another matter however.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:33am PT
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The missiles have a ceiling over 25km. and as far as the standalone tracking of a huge 777 that is squawking its transponder..I think that might not be too tough
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:38am PT
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Yes the civil airplane been directed/allowed to fly over the war zone is totally at fault of Ukrainian authorities. And yes Malaysians should of know better.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 18, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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Pretty insane to have a no-fly zone to FL 320 but allow airliners to overfly at FL330.
More insane to accept that routing.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Jul 18, 2014 - 11:10am PT
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It should be two missiles missing? One was used on Monday.
Assuming too much I guess.
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