Do first ascentionists have any rights?

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wstmrnclmr

Trad climber

Bolinas, CA

Jul 12, 2014 - 12:41pm PT

Sacs a good troll. Got me to take it seriously and I bit before I reminded myself just how small and self centered climbing really is in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure JGill agrees. And I like Granite-Girl's razzing as well. Both getting the "heavies" to bite. Putting a laugh on all of us trying to find relevance and our "legacy".

jstan

climber

Jul 12, 2014 - 12:48pm PT

I'm no body, except a working class blue collar man who just got into climbing.

LS

If I might ask. What was it that brought climbing to your attention?

A gym climber from San Francisco once asked for help in learning to climb outdoors. Since he was civil and straightforward I spent three days teaching him how to lead. He was leading 5.8 very competently when we finished. I was most impressed. A little more experience and he was clearly going to be able to climb whatever he wanted.

I went overboard impressing him on the fact a mistake could get him killed. You do realize climbing outdoors can get you killed?

Oh on a side note. The day he flew into Palm Springs it was 117F. The next three days were no cooler.

And it needs to be said. For the last fifty years no climber has walked past John Gill without tipping their hat. Why? Besides his outrageous accomplishments, he is a really good sort.

gonamok

climber

dont make me come over there

Jul 12, 2014 - 04:59pm PT

troll or no troll, whatever happened to respect?

BASE104

Social climber

An Oil Field

Jul 13, 2014 - 11:52am PT

You got off on the wrong foot, dude.

1) You picked the name "Large Sack."

There are some of the biggest sacks in the history of climbing who hang out here. I dunno why, but Supertopo is filled with old climbers.

2) Your post about sending 5.12 sounded like spray. On the web, things can come across differently from your intent.

If you have ANY questions about the history of climbing, ask it here. This is where all of the old farts hang out.