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jonnyrig
climber
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Jul 26, 2017 - 03:37pm PT
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so, ah, how's all this compare to standing rock for y'all?
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 26, 2017 - 03:50pm PT
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That Eric Parker clown should get the same. Bundy's little crime family, same. The drunk hillbilly with the 68yr sentence will probably be out in 10. They released OJ, ffs.
Not a criminal defense lawyer (just a humble intellectual property guy), but my recollection is that federal parole is very un-generous, and not comparable to most state's systems.
OJ was sentenced in Nevada, not the federal system.
Unless I'm missing something, Burleson's sentence will be a life sentence. That seems excessive to me, but my post is just to point out that it will in fact be a life sentence: he's not getting out in 10 and he's not getting out alive.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 26, 2017 - 05:22pm PT
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No parole in Federal criminal cases
Under the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, Congress eliminated parole for federal defendants convicted of crimes committed after November 1, 1987. But while federal prisoners can no longer look forward to parole release, they may nevertheless earn reduced terms for good behavior. And, even though federal parole has been all but eliminated, at the time of sentencing, judges can add a period of “supervised release” to be served at the end of a defendant’s prison sentence.
Congress eliminated parole in part because of a fear of unpredictable outcomes. A prisoner given a 20-year sentence could sometimes be released on parole after only a few short years. Even though the parole board had to consider each prisoner’s likelihood of committing another crime, Congress was concerned about the release of potentially dangerous convicts who hadn’t spent enough time behind bars.
Time off for Good Behavior
Even though federal prisoners sentenced in recent history can’t get parole, they may still earn early release for “exemplary” behavior. For example, progress toward a high-school diploma or the equivalent may shave time off a sentence. Prisoners serving sentences of more than a year but less than life can earn up to 54 days per year off their sentences for good behavior. (18 U.S.C. § 3624(b).)
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 26, 2017 - 06:51pm PT
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Maybe President Trump can pardon Mr. Burleson, if President Trump makes it to the end of his current term, & of course he can also pardon himself, his children, their spouses, his cabinet, & everyone that helped the Russians to elect him.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 26, 2017 - 09:08pm PT
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Can't he just be deported to Guatemala?
I don 't want my tax dollars going to keep this trash bag alive.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Jul 26, 2017 - 10:11pm PT
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^^^
Don't worry zzzBr-eye.
Your TG crew got layed-off today.
More tax dollars for you.
God knows you deserve it
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jul 26, 2017 - 10:43pm PT
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Mandatory minimum for his crimes was 57 years.
That's about what he'll serve with good behavior. (85%)
No parole in the federal system since the Reagan administration, so a jailbreak is the other way out.
Or the Trumpster could pardon him, but he's no Scooter Libby.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 27, 2017 - 05:37am PT
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Your TG crew got layed-off today.
Of course, you'll be down at the recruiter's office today to replace one of them?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 27, 2017 - 06:55am PT
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God knows you deserve it
God knows all I am told. You don't. I have no TG crew, nor any crew for that matter.
Time for you to crawl back in your cave. Do you even have a job?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jul 27, 2017 - 11:20am PT
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Well, I just read an article about Mr. 68 years and apparently they had guns trained on agents who were forced to take shelter in a wash. That's a little more than posting rants on the internet. You reap what you sow...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 27, 2017 - 11:37am PT
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Pure sedition...bitd they knew how to treat that.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jul 27, 2017 - 11:51am PT
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You reap what you sow...
End of story; however, it is just the beginning for the victim-minded folks.
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c wilmot
climber
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
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Don't be surprised when these tactics are used against other protestors. This ruling establishes a precedent where anyone perceived to be "intimidating" a federal officer can be jailed for life. Anyone who protested the Dakota pipeline should be very concerned. If the goverment wants to- they could improson hundreds if not thousands for life...and you don't even have to hurt anyone...
"Even though a shot was not fired, the injuries were very real."
 Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro
You don't have to assault anyone to be charged with assault so long as a government officer "feels" assaulted..
This is a direct threat to the freedoms Americans are supposed to have
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
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Wow, an armed takeover of federal property is now a "protest"?
So intimidation is cool, as long as you don't actually kill anyone?
Help me understand the alt-right perspective
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:41pm PT
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Gee wilmot, I never thought of that, guess I will have to stop threatening Federal officers with firearms. What kinda freedom is that?
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c wilmot
climber
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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Is an armed takeover of private property a form of a protest?
Because I don't see how this is all that much different than what the standing rock people did.
So long as those people are charged in a similar manner I am fine with it
Though the sentence is still way to harsh
Edit- according to the judge you don't have to be armed nor do you have to physically touch a federal officer in order to be charged with assaulting one. They only have to "feel" intimidated
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:54pm PT
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I don't see how this is all that much different than what the standing rock people did..
Well, you might try and be objective about it, this might involve kicking your own butt, I guess you'll know how strong you are in the end.
Really? How many guns did the protesters have at standing rock?
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:55pm PT
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Is an armed takeover of private property a form of a protest?
can't remember but I thought they took over Federal property?
did Bundy fatten this cattle on Federal property for many years and refuse to pay?
gotta read up on this stuff
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 27, 2017 - 01:56pm PT
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I actually think that the sentence was too lenient. When you take over forcibly with deadly weapons the implication is that resistance will be met with deadly force.
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