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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Joe you irresponsible rogue. . .
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John M
climber
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Somehow the people defending the parents missed the point.
A one year old toddler doesn't care if she/he is on a boat or at home. The parents just wanted to have some fun.
Selfish and irresponsible.
Do you say the same thing to the people who purposely move to places like the Alaskan Bush, or the outback of Africa or Australia, where medical care is a long ways away?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz CA
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They sucked big weenies!!! I love the first instruction on the bag "Stay Calm"
I've only done it as practice in Oakland Estuary.
Susan
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John M
climber
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For some people it is a way of life.
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John M
climber
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There are people who choose to live hundreds of miles from the nearest road, in total wilderness. They weren't born there. They have good jobs and good lives in regular cities/towns, and they choose to move to the wilderness for the very fact that it is wilderness. They didn't have to move to the wilderness in order to make a living, they chose it. And they choose to have families. What do you say about them?
For some people sailing is a hobby. for others it is a way of life. It is how they find fulfillment. I won't judge them for that.
I'm not that afraid of guns. Gun worshippers? sometimes, but thats only because some people are crazy. Guns themselves. Nope..
Some people should never even have kids. even if they are living in a nice safe town with a nice safe job. Others could raise the most amazing kids even in incredibly dangerous places. I don't choose to limit those kinds of people.
I would trade my nice safe growing up in a small farming community for growing up like what Guido shows in a heart beat. If my parents were up for it.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I doubt that the pressgang would have taken that lubber.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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I wish Guido had been my dad.
I can think of a heck of a lot worse examples of "irresponsible parenting".
And so can you.
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John M
climber
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OK John, I give up. You turning the arguments on purpose. Poor form.
We are talking about this particular incident, not some various scenarios.
No.. I am not turning it on purpose. I am trying to expose what I believe. If you believe differently, then thats fine. Thats your choice. Mine is different. This isn't about who wins an argument.
I believe that I asked a legitimate question. You define what they are doing as a hobby. I believe it is a lifestyle choice, so I am comparing it to what I believe are similar lifestyle choices. I'm not talking about someone who homesteads a place to try to make a life for themselves because they have nothing. I'm talking about people who have decent lives, but choose to go do something some would say is dangerous. I tend to salute them, unless their plan is unworkable or unreasonable. If they put a sound plan together, then I salute them, even if it is dangerous.
Moose, don't take this so personal. Its only a discussion.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Hell, Delhi Dog, your dad dragged you around the world growing up on Lake Titticacca (can I say that?) with giant toads. You should be grateful.
Actually, this is Timid but now I like my new look. I'm not on my tablet and too lazy to copy, sign out, sign in, and paste.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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GUIDO
PLEASE ADOPT ME!
I wanna start over!
sigh
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Actually TT it's Tittie poo poo.
Yeah, okay I did get "dragged" around to some sweet places.
My parents were so irresponsible...just like me, "dragging" my kids around.
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Sanskara
climber
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Buncha stinking hippies ;)
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Apr 10, 2014 - 09:17am PT
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what an awesome idea as parents to travel around the world. too bad the boat broke down.
im sure this is not the first time families have done this.
moose needs his meds!
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Sanskara
climber
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Apr 10, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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You won't...
Funny I was thinking about your fast yesterday Moose..
How you doing?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 10:54am PT
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Moosie, fasting won't bring Ron back.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:06am PT
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I feel like Gandhi now!
Maybe more like Gandinsky? :-)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 10, 2014 - 11:56am PT
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Nature or nurture?
My mother's father was a big time risk taker. He gambled. He was a philanderer.He even did some climbing in the Alps.In the '20s he hired a pilot to fly him in an open cockpit across the Channel to get a day's jump on the other Dutch diamond dealers when shipments became available.
And anybody who performs on stage like my dad did is a large risk taker. So maybe being a risk taker is genetic from both sides of my family, but I think the adventurous stuff that I was encouraged to do as a youth has led me to a far more interesting life than if I had sought a career in an office or such.
It may even be why, although reading a lot of Arthur Conan Doyle probably helped.
Ahoy, Guido, nice shots!
I want to buy some more Ts too.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 10, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
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Wanted: more parents like Guido in this world.
Seems like so many of todays parents are creating a whole sanitized generation who are risk adverse and feel their safety is a right, if some activity isn't safe it must be someone's fault.
My parents had two simple house rules, circa 1950's & early 60's:
1. No kids indoors during daylight hours.
2. If you're bleeding go to the mud room.
I'll never forget a frantic mother describing her son's head wound after a neighbor rock fight to my dad at the front door. His response, "well Betty boys will be boys", they'd be calling Child Protective Services today! Thanks dad for the cover, RIP.
Here's to the great dads out there, cheers!
Charlie D.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Apr 10, 2014 - 04:52pm PT
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Guido and High Traverse are spot-on!
For the rest of my life, I thanked my Dad who, one day, came into the (safe) bowling alley where my brother and I, in our early teens, bowled with our mom on Sundays. He took us out to Stoney Point where the Sierra Club taught us rock climbing! (Not safe!) That certainly changed the course of my life. I cannot imagine a life for me if Dad had not done that.
Robert Frost's poem, "The Road Not Taken" ends with this stanza:
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Great photos, Guido
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