How hard on the YDS scale can goats climb?

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Gene

climber
Nov 8, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3e_1370279107

Ammon comes to mind.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 13, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
Brought this over from the other thread.

http://www.trueactivist.com/13-pictures-of-crazy-goats-on-cliffs/

Don't miss the video at the end.

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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 14, 2013 - 09:30am PT
I recall seeing that goat chimney video when a youngster, or one showing goats doing the same outrageous descent.

Aren't we glad that's not part of the descent route from the Captain, eh?

"Descend the East Ledges Chimney in the goat-carom mode, (Third Class)..."

but that's silly, it can be rapped quickly and safely and there's pigs, too.

Yoemite SAR goats: The good old St. Bernard would be out-classed automatically and could stay out behind Werner's in with the mules.

I would volunteer to tend the herd in exchange for a place to live, which isn't really volunteering, just a possible ploy to get to live there.

Goats are versatile friends of man, like dogs and unlike cats (who are good mousers, but good for little else besides kissing up).

Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Nov 14, 2013 - 10:16am PT
I hate to be the party pooper but the Ibex video is not real. I wish it was real but it isn't.

To the question 'Do they fall?'. Yes they do. I've found their remains at the base of cliffs and in an avalanche path. Surprisingly many of these falls are not accidental. Mt Goats can be pretty aggressive with each other. I have some fighting photos on my hard drive, I'll try to load them tonight.

Here is one of a goat that fell and survived with both horns broken.

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I like to think of them as my 'Alpine Angels', but they don't always act very angelic.
tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Nov 15, 2013 - 09:08am PT
Perhaps they're so good cause they have to escape those fluffy leopards...this ain't "psicobloc". Apparently they can swim well too...Action starts around 1.04.
If you had to run from those daily, would probably be jumping pretty well too.

tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Nov 15, 2013 - 09:17am PT
Goats are versatile friends of man, like dogs and unlike cats
Perhaps this explains why so many people had been killed, mauled and injured by dogs, not cats. The common thing between humans, canines and bovidae, vs. felines, in that they're not the natural top of the food chain. Hence, the envy of cats. Cats are just superior.
Goat is human food, not "friend" (unless you're into eating friends). Goat meat is the most consumed meat in the world. Domestic dogs had traditionally been food animal too (fact they like not to mention a lot, endless cultures, like Sioux, etc, etc ate domestic dogs). Cat were like..."a 'friend' like that? no, thanks"
tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Nov 15, 2013 - 09:44am PT
And perhaps these goat leaps are not so fake.
I don't know how authentic the vid is, but just because someone haven't seen something it doesn't mean this isn't happening (kind of like new species and new animal behaviors are being discovered all the time even now).

Goats have to be close to what their predators are in agility. I'm looking at the book "Big Cats" right now and pumas and snow leopards had been documented to make some serious leaps. Leaps of 60feet from height of 18ft, 40ft from height of 12ft, a leap over a 47ft ditch had been documented for these felines by biologists. Jumps from trees and rocks up to 60ft in height and downhill 60ft leap had been observed. Biologist Ognev had stated: "Siberian snow leopard makes unbelievable leaps and I'd never had accepted stories about them if I had not seen them myself".
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Nov 30, 2013 - 09:49am PT
http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-dam/
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 30, 2013 - 10:49am PT
One of the best areas i know of to observe both rocky mtn bighorn sheep and mtn goats is the Ruby mtns of N eastern NV. Spend a week backpacking the ruby domes areas and youll probably see some exciting animal climbers.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 30, 2013 - 11:38am PT
Wha?? Got news for you,, i pass mtn goats on the way to snowcocks in the rubies. They are dumb as stumps there. Have you been to the Rubies? Im guessing not..
spearson

Mountain climber
San Francisco, CA
Dec 1, 2013 - 08:01am PT
No idea what this would rank on YDS (5.5?) but still pretty darn crazy to see a herd of goats doing it.
From http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-dam/
From http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-dam/
Credit: spearson
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Dec 5, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
more goat awesomeness
http://unofficialnetworks.com/mountain-goats-miraculously-survive-avalanche-french-alps-126956/
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Dec 6, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
Allow me to save y'all a step or two
clockclimb

Trad climber
Orem, Utah
Dec 22, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
I have seen their hair caught on small bushes along 5.8 climbs. I was amazed to see their tracks in a light covering of snow over ice on a 5.7 slab. Also saw a baby goat leap down a 10 foot cliff short-cutting to get to his mother.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 9, 2014 - 04:01pm PT
Stolen off the interwebs
Stolen off the interwebs
Credit: Willoughby
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