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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:24am PT
Its the listening to it, over and over ad infinitum. It produces troughs in the mind, ruts if you will, the getting out of which may prove quite difficult.
Like ol' time religion. Christianity or Islam.

grossly assuming

Grossly? ;)
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:28am PT
either bluering is the greatest troll around, or a blithering idiot.

Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:37am PT
I 've lost faith in participating in ST political debates. Always circular, mostly uninformed with half baked ideas and half baked truthiness. Pounding my head against the wall just gives me a headache and a big knott.

Naturally, like anyone who enjoys a good train wreck, I'll keep reading them for the laughs.

Try talking politics to me at a real campfire and watch me walk to the other side where I'll prefer the smoke in my eyes to what ever you have to say.
Deekaid

climber
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:39am PT
hey, timid, reread DMT's post. Don't look at the wreck
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:42am PT
Deekaid, try rereading my post. I like to laugh.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:42am PT
we all fall short of ideal

But we don't all support denying an entire group of people equal rights based on gender. We don't all do it while cowering behind multiple usernames... although since blurring pals around with psychos like Pat Dollard, I'm kinda wishing I had! The dude is a fuking nut case... "The War Starts Here" is the slogan on his home page.

If I don't live through the next couple weeks, please direct the authorities to Steve and Pat. Thank god I just upped my life insurance policy!!! Now to freeze some jiz.

Peas out
Barbarian

climber
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:42am PT
To all of those who have threatened to leave America if this happens or that doesn't - most notably Rush Limbaugh who said he would leave the USA if the Affordable Care Act was passed: My offer to drive you to the border is still on the table.

I have tremendous faith in the abilty of the people of this country to overcome the foolishness of the Congress, the media, big-business, and various bigots.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 11, 2013 - 11:46am PT
Dr. F, I know you are not a big fan of the Bible... I read it mostly to see just how hypocritical these "christian" fukheads are... but this one is relevant:


Mathew 7:16

By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

I like most of Mathew 7.

The "christians" who support Pat Dollard ("The War Starts Here") are fuking morans. I honestly feel they are the biggest threat to this country and one of the biggest threats to the world... and as it has been pointed out, they are too stupid to see their hypocrisy and blame everyone else for any and all problems... which brings me back to:

Mathew 7:3-5

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

(hint: the wood in your eye is SIN. It is a far greater sin to promote violence ("The War Starts Here") than to have an intimate, loving relationship with someone of the same sex.)
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Jul 11, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
i can imagine bluering opening his fridge,
looking for that jar of mayonaise?

though it's deep in the pit, probably behind the
jarred halepenos which is beyond the miralax.

f*#king pissed at the frusterating search,
he begins to issue white noise,
like a mosquito does when near the ear.

humming around the door, the noise increases
in pitch and volume until
the blue lid finally reveals itself.

aggressively grasping the poly carbon jar,
he doesn't even bother to open it,
instead he sinks his exaggerated canines
into the side of the jar and slowly
sucks the juices from the contents,
while behind him,
the egg that he was frying burns to a crisp.

congratulations, bluering.
you have won a years subscription of bad puns!


"the war starts here!"
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 11, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
St. Patrick? I have a boat, mate. Paddles and a spare life jacket, too.

DMT
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 11, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
"They're playing our song..."

Our song is "Shaft". Wherever we went on our first few dates, they were playing "Shaft" so it became ours. I'm not getting a new one!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 11, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
Cheese and rice, America is doing great! Everyone is going to get medical care, people who are poor will be fed, and we are doing really well at kicking out the people who want nothing more than to make a buck at someone else's expense!

These are good things!

If you don't see that, Bluering, then I pity you.
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Jul 11, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
The root problem of all of this is the lack of education in this country. Conspiracy theory? Maybe - but keep on cutting funds for public schools, keep on raising student loan interest rates, yada yada yada, the more uneducated and misinformed our citizenry are, the more ignorant, the quicker they'll swallow every Fox News broadast, religious zealot, fanatic right wing nonesence as gospel. That's the way to keep them in line! Don't educate! Don't enlighten! Don't create an environment of opportunity! Don't create any kind of progressive, modern-thinking environment! God forbid! Just go to church!

The problem isn't "America". The problem is what's being done to America by (insert here) - starts with a G. Ends with a P. Big ZERO in the middle.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Jul 11, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
Crusher crushed it . . . Our country has been sold down the tubes by those in power bluering. Food stamp roles are not increasing because people are lazy and stupid, it is because they have been growing increasingly desperate in an age of wealth transfer from the former "middle class" to the now ruling "one percent" that control the majority of the wealth. How are you doing compared to twenty years ago? I'd be surprised if you claim that you are better off.

The people who have lost sight of what we were are the greedy, evil bastards (Democrats included), currently bending us over and financially sodomizing us (we the people).
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
There surely is abuse of the SNAP program, but that only dictates tighter oversight, not abandonment of a program that helps a lot of honest, needy people.
gonzo chemist

climber
Fort Collins, CO
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
I normally hate to chime in on "discussions" such as these, b/c I feel that very little (if anything) really gets resolved.

However, I wanted to address this bit of nonsense:

(yer part of the problem....)

Bluering, if you're implying that all food stamp recipients are "part of the problem," then you're wrong. That's just not the case.

I'll provide you an example. Yes its only one example, but I feel its a good example of why no one should paint with broad brush-strokes.

When I was just a wee baby still, and my father was a medical resident at University of Rochester Strong Memorial Hospital, our income was so low that my parents applied for (and received) food stamps to help mitigate the tough circumstances. It was a measure to 'bridge the gap,' if you will. We (my parents and my brother and sister) ate a little better, and were all healthy throughout that time.

Now...fast-forward 30 years: My father has gone on to do more good in this world than you will ever know. By delivering thousands of healthy babies, he's brought more happiness and joy into this world than you could imagine. Additionally, He is one of the original pioneers of minimally invasive laparoscopic surgery in New England. Surgical techniques that have helped COUNTLESS people in HUGE ways. He is highly respected, and well loved in his community.

My point is this: not everyone who needs assistance is trying to bilk the system. Sometimes people just need a helping hand while they're getting up (or back) on their feet. Many of those people will go on to do great things in this country and their communities.

Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
+1 crusher. A good way to increase the population of uneducated idiots is to make sure every woman who gets knocked up, whether by rape or youthful indiscretion or whatever, brings another person into this world. What happens to that child when the mom can't take care of it? That's their problem.

Obliterate sex education
Oppose birth control programs
Make abortion illegal
Cut welfare programs
Cut education
Give tax breaks to large corporations

Make an army of uneducated slaves for the corporate overlords.
PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
Bluering ; would that be north america or south america?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
Probably referring to the West Indies
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
I'm pretty sure that he's calling the USA America. That would really piss off a lot of my friends who live in other parts of America.

Par for the course with that guy, though.
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