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mechrist

Gym climber

South of Heaven

Feb 11, 2013 - 05:08pm PT

Wow, I just donated $20 and it is already up to $23,142.

naecha, the troll killa!

Jebus H Bomz

climber

Peavine

Feb 11, 2013 - 05:12pm PT

$10!?? That BASTARD!!!!

edit: Tears stream silently down Coz' face as his fingers clack away like angry spiders.

nature

climber

Boulder, CO

Feb 11, 2013 - 05:13pm PT

I can't wait to run my fundraiser for my trip to Mexico to bring awareness to shark-finning. In locker world I'm sure I'll have a cool quarter mil' in no time....

Jebus H Bomz

climber

Peavine

Feb 11, 2013 - 05:14pm PT

You BASTARD!!!!

nature

climber

Boulder, CO

Feb 11, 2013 - 05:15pm PT

Wouldn't it be funny if coz was the one trolling and was the one that coughed up the ten bucks?

coz

Gym climber

Belmont

Feb 11, 2013 - 05:21pm PT

You guys give me too much credit.

I hope, I've been trolled.

Mr Roy

climber

Seattle

Feb 11, 2013 - 06:09pm PT

"I was an International School teacher for along time"

Oh, CIA, eh?

Jan

Mountain climber

Okinawa, Japan

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:03pm PT

The CIA can't live on a teacher's salary nor keep their counsel around liberals. They pose instead as businessmen and military attaches.

Mr Roy

climber

Seattle

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:22pm PT

Oh yeah right, I really believe you..

nature

climber

Boulder, CO

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:29pm PT

CIA agents don't do it for money. they do it for the love of the job. the thrill... excitement... the duty to self and nation.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:31pm PT

jesus this thread i a good one! I'm glad I didn't chime in sooner - or maybe not?!? This is classic in the sense that it all sounds awesome but there is squat for verification so.....

I just find it sad that so many people are so cynical

Me too but that is exactly the bait that is used to set the trap. It is not a matter of wishing it is a matter of reality. Fraud happens and they call it a confidence scheme.

The thing is, there is a business opportunity here. If someone could create an E-Bay for "cries for help" that are verified as true .... or maybe a an online Slueth service? - You could call it E - Dick!

If this guy is true we all would love to help. If not ...... maybe part of the attraction in using such an E - Dick service would be the ability to inflict E - Vigilante justice where needed, as much as provide help where needed. I'm telling you there's money to be made here!

happiegrrrl

Trad climber

www.climbaddictdesigns.com

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:33pm PT

CIA???

Oh jeez, already.

Mr Roy

climber

Seattle

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:48pm PT

Yes happi, it's call data-mining..

happiegrrrl

Trad climber

www.climbaddictdesigns.com

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:54pm PT

Not quite following you on this tangent ole Roy....

You are suggesting that a guy, a teacher, who posts frequently on rockclimbing.com, details the development of a climbing gym venture he worked on, and now posts this thread is a CIA operative who is data-mining through these climbing websites?

What?... His cover was blown and so he's getting kicked out of Indonesia, but they're politely giving him 2 weeks notice to vacate, and the good old USofA is too strapped for money to extract him, so they suggested he come up with a scheme designed to pull on the heartstrings of Supertopo and fund his getaway? Because (through data mining) it is clear that this is a dog loving forum?

phylp

Trad climber

Millbrae, CA

Feb 11, 2013 - 07:58pm PT

just add his to the 99.99% of charitable causes to which you won't contribute.

I recognize the poster as a long time ST contributor. Seems like a good person.
But Jan summarized my own reaction: "this is what credit cards are for". You have a job waiting for you in the States, according to your post...

johntp

Trad climber

socal

Feb 11, 2013 - 08:05pm PT

This has gone so far off the OP request it is pathetic. The guy has been posting for years. So he comes to the taco hat in hand asking for some help. How many times has that happened? And then he gets crucified. I've seen a number of posts here about grieving for the loss of a pet and the condolences subsequentley conveyed.

I have no clue about the accumulation in the pay pal account but it sounds bogus to me that it could get that high.

OP, can you clarify the actual cost rather than just ask for cash?

Good lord, let's hear him out rather than pilliory him.

Guangzhou

Trad climber

Asia, Indonesia, East Java

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 08:21pm PT

Didn’t anticipate all this discussion. $17,000+ worried me a bit, definitely too much.

For those interested and asking:
$10.00 on chip-in.
$101.85 with people who sent money directly to my PayPal.

First and foremost, I agree, the dogs are my responsibility and no one else’s.

Several of you have pointed out that this is my problem and I should deal with it. I agree, I have no one to blame. I came to Indonesia as an International School teacher. Yes, we spend all our spare time spying for the CIA. Those of you who are teacher will appreciate the spare time comment.

While here, I decided to leave a steady job to start a climbing gym in a foreign country. A country known for constantly changing its’ laws, especially work permits and those related to small/medium sized businesses.

The business was started; my share was put in my wife’s name. Foreigners can’t own a business without becoming a foreign cooperation. About $20,000 cost. My wife, partner, and I decided the extra 20,000 wasn’t worth it because Ernita is Indonesian. A conscious decision that I willingly made. Again, I blame no-one.

Because of the work visa situation here, my wife and I will move to America so I can go back to teaching in the States. Nevada, Arizona, California, maybe Utah. Unlike a climbing gym, teaching is guaranteed to make me rich.

Several of you believe this is a scam, nothing I can do about that. Several of you have donated; thank you. Some of you have defended me; I appreciate it. Most of you have read this, didn’t attack, defend, or donate.

Someone pointed out that I have no control over what laws the Indonesian Government decides to change or alter so this isn’t so different from in unexpected health issues. I think health issues are much worse and that 99% of the people who experience them are much less responsible for causing them than I am for me being in Indonesia. With the exception of someone willingly putting themselves in a dangerous situation and getting hurt, I think unexpected health issues are not the person’s fault, but this is a position I put myself in.

I very much agree that this is a first world problem. As someone who has seen and volunteered in third world countries, I completely agree they are much better causes out there than bringing my dogs to America. Many great causes in America are much higher on the list too.

Cheers,
Eman
I can keep you guys posted on how much I raise if you’re interested.

Guangzhou

Trad climber

Asia, Indonesia, East Java

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 08:24pm PT

Last two post must have been posted while I was writing.

Initial estimate from the airline is 1500.00 USD. That is what I am trying to raise.

Second post, no job yet. I plan on teaching and with my experience, I should be able to find a job in Either Arizona, Nevada, Utah maybe California.