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nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 11, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
I can't wait to run my fundraiser for my trip to Mexico to bring awareness to shark-finning. In locker world I'm sure I'll have a cool quarter mil' in no time....
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 11, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
Wouldn't it be funny if coz was the one trolling and was the one that coughed up the ten bucks?
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Feb 11, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
"I was an International School teacher for along time"

Oh, CIA, eh?
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
The CIA can't live on a teacher's salary nor keep their counsel around liberals. They pose instead as businessmen and military attaches.
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
Oh yeah right, I really believe you..
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
CIA agents don't do it for money. they do it for the love of the job. the thrill... excitement... the duty to self and nation.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:33pm PT
CIA???


Oh jeez, already.






Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
Yes happi, it's call data-mining..
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Not quite following you on this tangent ole Roy....

You are suggesting that a guy, a teacher, who posts frequently on rockclimbing.com, details the development of a climbing gym venture he worked on, and now posts this thread is a CIA operative who is data-mining through these climbing websites?

What?... His cover was blown and so he's getting kicked out of Indonesia, but they're politely giving him 2 weeks notice to vacate, and the good old USofA is too strapped for money to extract him, so they suggested he come up with a scheme designed to pull on the heartstrings of Supertopo and fund his getaway? Because (through data mining) it is clear that this is a dog loving forum?

phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:58pm PT
just add his to the 99.99% of charitable causes to which you won't contribute.

I recognize the poster as a long time ST contributor. Seems like a good person.
But Jan summarized my own reaction: "this is what credit cards are for". You have a job waiting for you in the States, according to your post...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
This has gone so far off the OP request it is pathetic. The guy has been posting for years. So he comes to the taco hat in hand asking for some help. How many times has that happened? And then he gets crucified. I've seen a number of posts here about grieving for the loss of a pet and the condolences subsequentley conveyed.

I have no clue about the accumulation in the pay pal account but it sounds bogus to me that it could get that high.

OP, can you clarify the actual cost rather than just ask for cash?

Good lord, let's hear him out rather than pilliory him.
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
Didn’t anticipate all this discussion. $17,000+ worried me a bit, definitely too much.

For those interested and asking:
$10.00 on chip-in.
$101.85 with people who sent money directly to my PayPal.

First and foremost, I agree, the dogs are my responsibility and no one else’s.

Several of you have pointed out that this is my problem and I should deal with it. I agree, I have no one to blame. I came to Indonesia as an International School teacher. Yes, we spend all our spare time spying for the CIA. Those of you who are teacher will appreciate the spare time comment.

While here, I decided to leave a steady job to start a climbing gym in a foreign country. A country known for constantly changing its’ laws, especially work permits and those related to small/medium sized businesses.

The business was started; my share was put in my wife’s name. Foreigners can’t own a business without becoming a foreign cooperation. About $20,000 cost. My wife, partner, and I decided the extra 20,000 wasn’t worth it because Ernita is Indonesian. A conscious decision that I willingly made. Again, I blame no-one.

Because of the work visa situation here, my wife and I will move to America so I can go back to teaching in the States. Nevada, Arizona, California, maybe Utah. Unlike a climbing gym, teaching is guaranteed to make me rich.

Several of you believe this is a scam, nothing I can do about that. Several of you have donated; thank you. Some of you have defended me; I appreciate it. Most of you have read this, didn’t attack, defend, or donate.

Someone pointed out that I have no control over what laws the Indonesian Government decides to change or alter so this isn’t so different from in unexpected health issues. I think health issues are much worse and that 99% of the people who experience them are much less responsible for causing them than I am for me being in Indonesia. With the exception of someone willingly putting themselves in a dangerous situation and getting hurt, I think unexpected health issues are not the person’s fault, but this is a position I put myself in.

I very much agree that this is a first world problem. As someone who has seen and volunteered in third world countries, I completely agree they are much better causes out there than bringing my dogs to America. Many great causes in America are much higher on the list too.

Cheers,
Eman
I can keep you guys posted on how much I raise if you’re interested.



Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
Last two post must have been posted while I was writing.

Initial estimate from the airline is 1500.00 USD. That is what I am trying to raise.

Second post, no job yet. I plan on teaching and with my experience, I should be able to find a job in Either Arizona, Nevada, Utah maybe California.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
Unlike a climbing gym, teaching is guaranteed to make me rich.

A teacher with a sense of humor is a good thing.
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
Not sure how easy a teaching job will be to find, but I'm jumping through the hoops now. The districts I'm emailing with seem very positive. My wife and I both realize we could end up working at Trader Joes or asking "do you want fries with that?"

A teacher without a sense of humor is what scares me.
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2013 - 12:01am PT
Bruce,

I agree with your post, and I know nothing I write here can sway people one way or the other. I too am cynical in many cases. Sometimes I choose to help, other times I don't.

Whether or not I've been scammed online I can't say. I do know that while living in Indonesia, I was able to track my Master Card and a Gas Card across the states from Wyoming to the Great Lakes. Definite Identity theft. One gas card saw things my way, the other is making me pay, and my Master Card knows that I live here and can't in two places at once. During the same time frame, I paid into social security in Arkansas.

Here in ST, I donated to one one cause, that was the get Taco Sans home. The Japanese Girl Climber who was paralyze in a car accident. I know she is currently back in Japan and after a couple years starting to recover.

Third world causes, I tend to donate time more than money.

Again, donate, don't donate. Hope some help, I understand those that don't.


nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 12, 2013 - 01:36am PT
Your first post here was March of 2010. So you've been setting us up for this scam for three years.

not only that you've been posting fake climbing photos.
http://www.supertopo.com/inc/photo_view.php?dpid=MzM8Pzk3IyIl

on top of all that you're clearly a CIA agent and the gym you speak of isn't even real.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1966131/Help-name-our-Climbing-Series

And the topper is you have a fascination with crack machines.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1955836&msg=1955836#msg1955836

All that work for ten bucks ;-)



that reminds me of a joke...

what did the doe say when she came out of the woods?

"that's the last time I do that for ten bucks".



Edit:

I seem to recall that the Peru people raised 17k or so.

Oooooooh.... I get it now. locker is sniffing so much glue he couldn't remember the difference between a bunch of climbers that got their ass kicked in Peru and a guy with two dogs in a country a Pacific Ocean away. *that's* where he got the $17K numbah....
John M

climber
Feb 12, 2013 - 01:44am PT
All that work for ten bucks ;-)

Climbers are suckers for a sob story..
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Feb 12, 2013 - 03:02am PT
So you never really introduced us properly. Do those cute little buddies have names?

I was just sortta kidding about the CIA. I had a childhood friend who work for the CIA as an international teacher but he went places like Kuwait and Iraq. True story.

Anyways good luck, I'm broke.

Happi, good story !

Edit: Hey wait, I think he was in southeast asia, too.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 12, 2013 - 04:32am PT
Unlike a climbing gym, teaching is guaranteed to make me rich.

Glad you still have your sense of humor.

And interesting that you mention Tacos Satoko. I donated to her too and then asked for my check back when the woman collecting couldn't give me an address or phone number for her family in Japan, their name, or the name of the hospital where she was taken. Later she was able to post on Facebook and I decided it was legit.
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