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Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 12, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
Atcha, sorry you feel that way. I am just trying to prove a point. I guess I took the wrong tack. I am not whinging. But good heavens, begging to get dogs to the US when there are people on this forum who need to cover medical expenses.

At least I have some very good support here in Ireland to look after Jennie. But what about those in the States, fellow Supertopians, that are hurting worse than I am?

Call me what you want Atcha. I just hope the day comes where you do not need support. I mean that. I do not bare any sort of ill feelings to anybody, and if I have come across that I have, then it is my fault for not communicating properly.

And I will not go f*ck myself. You seem to have that covered for me.

What sort of people are you?

Go ahead and tell me.

You have a partner who was abused as a child. And I am dealing with consequences years ahead.

And you tell me to go feck myself? I am trying my best.Look in the mirror and tell me that you are better than I am. And you call me whining?

Atcha, for the most part I have always liked your posts, but you have gone overboard on this one, IMO.

I am trying my best, and I only hope it is good enough.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 12, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
I am surprised by your reaction, you always seem level-headed.

I am level headed, Patrick. I see what is going on for you. It is taking you down and you don't see clearly how your outlook has changed in the last two years because of the burden.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 12, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
hey in patricks name I sent you 10 bucks! I guess i can risk it eh?

those dogs look like they are really great dogs man - good luck
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 12, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
Happie, yeah, things are not great. But if you really care about people, you have to try and be positive, but the negativity can be overwhelming at times.

I try my best, and the health authorities say I am doing a great job, but I wonder.

To you, Atcha and others, I do try to keep my chin up. And I do not mean to insult anybody. I AM NOT a whinger, but sometimes things just get you down. A bloke looking for money for his dogs, when there are people who need more support (on this forum, and I am not including myself, I have a good team in place - doctors, nurses, carers) but come on, what about so and so (no names mentioned) that we communicate on this forum on a regular basis?

I guess I took the wrong tack. Stupid me.


EDIT

I know what it is like to ship a dog, I have done it. Okay, England to the US is not the same as Indonesia to the US. I love animals. The only gift I could afford Jennie this past Christmas was a 40 WWF for snow leopards.

I am not trying to diss this bloke looking for money for his dogs. But I would not go online looking for money. Plain and simple. But it looks like I have invoked the ire of some people. That was not my intention, but as my late mother always said, "The road to Hell is paved with the best of intentions".

I wish the guy the best of luck in getting his beloved dogs to the US. Heathrow to SF, with a stop over in Atlanta. I asked the airline people could I go see my dog (1993, pre 911) when in Atlanta, they said sure. So I went to see Ci. Can't imagine that happening nowadays.

EDIT

Some of the reactions by a couple of people to my posts, not positive. Perhaps I should just quit the forum, easier than taking the 'abuse' a couple of you have thrown at me. I'll just go cry in my beer. Oops, water, as I am not drinking anymore.

I try, but it looks like I have failed in some of your eyes. So I guess I will just go and feck myself, as Atcha suggested.

Smiles, nothing but smiles. ;-)
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 12, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
Well...hopefully you are just being facetious with the "quit the forum" thing.
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Feb 12, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
Life sure is crazy

Some people chop their own firewood.

Some people pay for their firewood

Some people go cold
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 12, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
Happie, I love this forum.

But I do not need people like Atchafalaya to go tell me to go f*ck myself.

I am just trying to be honest, and for that I get abuse. Sad is me.

And I usually always agreed with his posts. I must have struck a bad chord with him.

I have a lot on my plate, as I imagine a lot of us do. I do not need the likes of Atchafalaya to berate me.

I can see why Anders/Mighty Hiker has decided to leave this forum.

I am not looking for sympathy, but I am also not looking for money to ship some dogs.

I shipped my dog to the States (1993) on my own money. Not my mom's, not the UK's, not anybody but myself. And not a climber's forum.

And I did not have a teaching job lined up in California/Arizona/or elsewhere.


EDIT

Atchafalaya sent me an email that was very nice, thanks dude. We all can get caught up in the moment.


EDIT

Atchafalaya, thank you. I need that sort of reinforcement. I am only human, as we all are. Again, thank you. It reifies my trust in the forum.
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Feb 12, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Hi Patrick


Just to clear up a few things.


He has no job lined up.

He goes about doing things different than you would

You seem to be angry at him for this

It is very basic

He is different than you

I can accept both of you and appreciate your contributions,

I never would ask for anything here except for friendship, many cool people here

I would not donate to him but I do like his style for following through his thoughts with a plan
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 12, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
Fish Finder, yeah, I may have been a bit of a knee-jerk.

It just strikes me as odd that... well, it just strikes me as odd.

I have a had a couple of emails from other Supertopians, good ones.

I need to chill out.

Yours and cheers

Patrick
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 12, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
Every little bit helps, right?

I miss you...
I miss you...
Credit: nature

chipped in a little.... cheers...
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 12, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
I saw a bit of the westminister dog show on the TV in the bar I was playing music in this evening. just about made me puke. this societys values are f*#ked up beyond all repair. All I can say is love your human as much as you love your dog and fer chist sake do something kind and charitable to as many needy humans as you do for needy dogs....
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
Not sure if it helps, but I said I would keep people posted on funds raised.

Direct to paypal: $163.45
Chip-In $25.00

I appreciate all the contributions. So does my wife Ernita.

Kuma, the white one, and Sato the brown one, appreciate it too.


Eman

Sato
Sato
Credit: Guangzhou

Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
Tradman, I agree, people should threat each other with respect and love.

Not sure how to make that happen. Just the tone people speak to each other in creates animosity.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 12, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
Sato looks like a fun beast to own.
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Feb 12, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
Well I'm glad you don't work for the CIA & you posted up their names. Great names. Good luck again..times are tuff.
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2013 - 10:14pm PT
Dogs are great.

Kuma is Japanese for Bear.

Sato is Indonesian for "one"

Sato can also mean Sugar in Japanese, but I'm not sure I want people to know my dogs could go by the name "Sugar Bear."
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2013 - 05:51am PT
FOr those who asked. Dog photos first.

Some of my wife too.

Kuma
Kuma
Credit: Guangzhou

Kuma as a puppy
Kuma as a puppy
Credit: Guangzhou

Playful Kuma
Playful Kuma
Credit: Guangzhou

My wife Ernita, and I. Can't remember the name of the place where this...
My wife Ernita, and I. Can't remember the name of the place where this photo was taken. Wink Wink
Credit: Guangzhou

Ernita finishing her first Yosemite route on Manure Pile Buttress.
Ernita finishing her first Yosemite route on Manure Pile Buttress.
Credit: Guangzhou
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Feb 13, 2013 - 07:01am PT
At different times, I had a cat named Anjing, and another named Kucing.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 13, 2013 - 07:13am PT
Guangzhou, apologies for adopting a harsh tone.

Sometimes the stress of being a carer gets to me.

As I have previously written, I brought my dog Ci (Welsh for dog, pronounced 'Key', in Brittany, it is Ki, Brythonic Celtic, both languages).

In Irish (Goildelic Celtic) dog is 'madra'.

Ci was from a tiny village in north Wales, 3/4 border collie, 1/4 lab. He was 10-1/2 when he died of sclerosing encapsulating peritonitis, none of the vets had seen before bar Professor Chris Bellinger at the UCD Vet School, Ci's case was the third he had seen in 35 years working as a vet in Australia (he's an Oz), the States and here in Ireland.

Very rare, even rarer in cats, but for some reason the disease affects adolescent Polynesian girls. Strange, eh?

Prof Bellinger gave me a paper from the North Carolina State University's College of Veterinary Medicine, with five case studies, four dogs, and one a cat.

Ci was lively, not showing signs of aging, and then... gone. My little pal.

As I mentioned, make sure that the dog carriers/kennels/crates are up to airline standards (check out the The International Air Transport Association - IATA - website if you have already haven't).

When I stopped over in Atlanta (Delta Airlines hub) from Heathrow to SF in 2003, they let me go down to the cargo area to see Ci, even though it was against the rules. I can't imagine post-911 of such 'clearance', so to speak.

Good luck for your dogs, wife and you.

Cheers

Patrick


EDIT

Tradmanclimbs, I sort of see your point, but animals/pets can help relieve stress. That some people think more of them than humans, well...

I hope you can work through your difficulties and medical bills. If I ever win the lottery I will help you and others to the best of my ability.

Now, I just have to find the winning numbers. ;-)
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 13, 2013 - 07:31am PT
I have to add, that when I landed in San Francisco (January 1993, did I write 2003 before? I'll check. 1993), with Ci in his kennel, the Customs/Immigration Officer let us 'fly' through. Jeez I could have been smuggling dope or contraband.
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