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graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Feb 4, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
If you've ever been interviewed by media, you'd understand that usually only a small fraction of what you tell them is published in the article. Even where the media publishes interviews, you don't get to read the full interview most of the time--they publish excerpts.

Just because the news article doesn't include every detail that was in Jenny's article doesn't mean that it is inconsistent or that Jenny's story "changed."

When they spoke to the two villagers on motorbikes, they probably talked about the village and also about camping.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Feb 4, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

True. When things like that which have been reported multiple times change all of a sudden, i tend to find it suspicious.

It does sound more like the real version of what happened, less sensationalist.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Feb 4, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
Riley, after you learn how to handle encounters with uniformed park rangers in ways that don't result in you getting beat up, you'll be more qualified to lecture us on how to handle encounters with an angry mob. You were at hothead then, and you're being a hothead now.
Gerg

Trad climber
Calgary
Feb 4, 2013 - 03:06pm PT
I don't know what side to believe; I do find it as exciting though as the tales of Wings of Steel and weither a commercial plane or a missle hit the Pentagon.
This would make a horrible book/movie but maybe an afterschool special for the little ones, flower it up with cartoon scenes of Peru.
They want donations??! Really? Anyone who allows these kids to continue travelling in South America likely gives money to also to T.V. Evangelists - depart with your $ how you see fit.
I am gonna be in Jackson with my son in April, I would love to attend the 'donations supper', sounds like fun fun.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
To paraphrase Werner: there's a whole lotta mental speculating goin' on here
with few facts to base such activity on. What's to be gained other than
to reinforce the need to be respectful and aware anywhere you go?
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Feb 4, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
What's to be gained other than
to reinforce the need to be respectful and aware anywhere you go?

Another thing to be gained is realizing that being respectful and aware does not mean you will always be safe.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Feb 4, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
From the Wolfrom's blog:

We have also received a great amount of support and disbelief from Peruvians over this incident taking place in their country. We would like to express that we too are in disbelief. We have spent two amazing months in this country before this incident and cannot say we met a single other sole that wasn’t warm and welcoming to us. There are bad people everywhere in the world, in every country, just as there is good everywhere in the world. We just happened to enter in to the wrong place at the wrong time. We in no way reflect this situation on the country as a whole and hope that others will react in the same manner.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Feb 5, 2013 - 01:37am PT
Really? This thread is still going?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 5, 2013 - 05:35am PT
Seem to be getting press...

http://www.drudgereport.com/ which links to:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bound-beaten-and-robbed-backpackers-attacked-by-whipbrandishing-peruvian-villagers-in-savage-two-day-ordeal-8480069.html
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Feb 5, 2013 - 06:06am PT
Those of you supporting the Peruvians are really funny.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 5, 2013 - 06:14am PT
One thing about the Drudge report that healeyje posted that rings true to my experience overseas was that the American consulate was uninterested in helping until the news media and senators got involved. Ordinary tax paying citizens don't count for much at those places in my experience.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2013 - 08:01am PT
Riley, the nurse detective, do you 'believe' Americans landed on the moon?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 5, 2013 - 08:25am PT
Well I believe Americans have landed on the moon. But they weren't beat up by any locals so you may not have heard about it.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 5, 2013 - 09:01am PT
This thread is STILL here? I can't believe I clicked.. I really can't believe I'm posting.

I'm totally over it at this point and gotta go with DMT ...

Who gives a sh#t who to believe? ... Belief is irrelevant.

DMT


PS:


Riley my friend.. in my experience vegetarian diets turn most people into passive tree-hugging wankers. The only thing vegetarians get this riled up about is GMO's. Just admit it.. you've been filching bacon and sirloin on the side and washing it down with that Mountain Dew(?) you used to drink by the case ;) That or is it Texas living..? That place is evil.. evil I tell you. It's flat and full of rednecks. Come back to Cali Riley. I'll buy you a tofu burger and take you climbing at the beach. Come back before it's too late... :)

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 5, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
Those of you supporting the Peruvians are really funny.

Explain. Why is it funny to support the people who live there and had their lives interrupted by foreigners who didn't speak the language and refused to show any ID? You'd rather take the side of the "extreme adventurers" who boldly vacationed in another country, figuring it would be fine if they knew nothing about the area, the language, or the people?
Gerg

Trad climber
Calgary
Feb 5, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
Is there any windshield experts that can tell if the two impacts on the photo are outward(drunken heads) or inward(crazed locals). It is odd that such impact never left much damage on the girl who would have hit your skull.
Who to believe DMT, this is fun!
WBraun

climber
Feb 5, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
The windshield damage was definitely rocks .....
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Feb 5, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
I agree with Werner. The damages look to have originated from the outside.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 5, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
The one on the driver's side is from a rock. But look at the other one... clearly a much broader object caused the one in the middle. I'm guessing it was the dude's head. It all makes sense... a chick was driving (which is why they ended up in the ditch). The dude was sitting in the back, between the seats and bloodied his head when he hit the glass, then banged his jaw against the dash or other person's head.



Sad that it all could have been avoided with a little common courtesy and common sense.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Feb 5, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
The middle one looks to have an outside impact mark just like the drivers side to me.
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