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patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 4, 2013 - 07:23am PT
http://https://www.crowdtilt.com/campaigns/peru-fund-help-jenny-meghan-and-jed

click through to the narrative
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:03am PT
http://adventureamericas.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/nightmare-in-peru/

Holy Crap....

Scratching Pallcca off the list.

Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:18am PT
What a nightmare!
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:19am PT
Things like this are always a risk, anywhere, anytime, but especially in 3rd world countries. I have been around the world (literally) and have visited over 35 countries. I have limited my travels to central and south America for this very reason.

But I should say the the worst and most violent crime I have ever suffered was in my own neighborhood, in my own town, in my own state, and in my own country, the USA.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:21am PT
Paranoia meets mob mentality with a dose of local henchman.
Probably no little degree of inbreeding also.
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:22am PT
Scratch Peru off my list
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:28am PT
I guess my question is: Why didn't the US Consulate get them to the US Embassy ASAP? It would seem that their citizenship could be quickly ascertained in this day and age, even in 3rd tier towns in Peru. Once that's done, the US Embassy should have stepped in and provided assistance.

It's an unfortunate incident that always has the potential to occur when traveling to the edges. I hope everyone involved heals and recovers as fully as possible.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:31am PT
But I should say the the worst and most violent crime I have ever suffered was in my own neighborhood, in my own town, in my own state, and in my own country, the USA.


k.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:37am PT
How can help them?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:42am PT
Look,, in this day and age,, traveling abroad may very well get you GRIEF.

I know of two taxidermists that went to South America- on some islands to photograph birds for a reference album. Never been seen or heard from since. There are MANY more missing or dead from Peru and many other countries, including Argentina. travel,, at your OWN RISK.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:44am PT
Insane! May they heal quickly and return home safe.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:56am PT
Indians all over the world seem to be pissed at whitey, I wonder why?

Too bad for these poor travelers.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:01am PT
Wow. What a nightmare.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:30am PT
crowdtilt link is broken for me


and does 5 gallons of gas really cost 120 dollars in Peru?


"5 gallon gas can and 5 gallons of gas = $120"
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:34am PT
Paranoia meets mob mentality with a dose of local henchman.
Probably no little degree of inbreeding also.
Reilly nails it.

Add in a little showing off something locals couldn't afford in 8 lifetimes:

http://adventureamericas.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/dsc02651.jpg

Anyone recall what is unique about the New Year? This is a time when you see a LOT of poor people along the side of the road, and tons of these road block / gringo tax collection booths.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:36am PT
That's horrible. If you or your friends are reading this, best wishes for speedy recovery.

When I was in Ecuador, Peru wasn't particularly dangerous. Always, there's some risk of banditos wherever you go, and even more so in outlying areas.

I'd still go to Peru. I usually hire a local guide who knows the lay of the land and can keep their ear to the ground if I go off the beaten path.

JLP is right -- traveling with fancy gear is a sure way to lose it. Had a bus driver steal the perlon cord that I used to tie my kayak to the roof, right in front of me -- he was on top, lowered the boat to me, and refused to throw down the cord. I always lied to the locals about the cost of the boats and the plane ticket to get there to (probably, futilely) minimize the perception of wealth as much as possible.
sharperblue

Mountain climber
oakland, california
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:41am PT
This is obviously really bad, but also an incredibly isolated, unique incident, however dangerous and brutal. I've spent four seasons climbing in Peru and - aside from the occasional squabbles with dishonest arrieros or petty thefts - have nothing but magnificent memories of the people of that marvelous place.

To avoid a country as huge and rich geographically as Peru based on a single such incident smacks of racism, and at the very least you're doing yourself an enormous dis-service by missing this place. How many tourists visit Peru each year and how many incidents of violence? Compared to the United states? to Italy?

The points made about 3rd world (in this case 2.5 world) travel are completely valid though; to think that you can just casually drive through a place as vast as South America and expect no trouble is mind-bogglingly naive; it's still the wild west out there - very, very much so. Add in miner's communities (mostly Japanese and Canadian owned companies, btw) who literally kill trouble makers or survivor's of Pinochet's massive massacres escaping north, and you bet you have some pissed off people. Doesn't absolve the violence of course, but it makes it understandable.

The current government of Paraguay isn't even recognized by ANY other South American state due to its being an obvious US patsy set-up (this comment coming from a self-professed patriot) Blow-back to American policies in South America? Who would have ever guessed?
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:42am PT
Wild story and a very traumatic experience in every sense of the word. Rural folk the world over can get scary fast. Those hills have eyes, right?

I had my own experience in a very "safe" part of Mexico (at the time).

I've known others to run into their own log in the road.

I wouldn't think Peru is going to reimburse them, I'd focus on getting out of there fast and recovering with family.
MisterE

Social climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:43am PT
Heart-wrenching.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:50am PT
Very scary. To think you were about to be stoned to death . . .
Holy crap, I don't know what I'd do.

I wonder what the prospects of getting any help from our embassy or the Peruvian government are?
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