Rock removal in Woodfords Canyon

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Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:11am PT

I HAVE to wonder what the Woodfords tribe thinks about all this..

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:19am PT

If its where I think it is ( just downhill from Joyce's store and the CG), that's a pretty dangerous spot for dump trucks to be entering the flow of traffic.

Edit; from what I've been told, that north side is great for rock hounding. Like huge payout great.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:20am PT

Im going to post this on some fishing forums as well--Seems they have an interest in things in the canyon too.

and Yes Brandon,, most ANYWHERE in the upper half of the canyon is sketch for pulling out. let alone with a loaded truck.

T Hocking

Trad climber

Redding, Ca

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:23am PT

Save Woodfords!
I'll sign a petition or letter Ron.
Actually there is a quarry right next to my little gem Cannibis Crag,
Hope they don't wanna F#ck with it!
Tad

kennyt

climber

Woodfords,California

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 10:26am PT

Project contact: Keith Whaley 760-932-7070 kwahley@fs.fed.us

Flood this guys e-mail and voicemail!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:31am PT

Tad,, it will be better if each of us write the Carson Ranger District. Will make more of an impact if they receive e mails continually.

This whole thing isnt thought out very well. They are going to create essentially a quarry on one of the MAIN arteries through Alpine County, in a HIGH use recreation area, along a riparian zone..The road (hgwy88) is used by Bicycle events, motor cycle events, fishing events and climbing and camping..

From what i see the ONLY reason they have chosen the canyon is EASY ACCESS to the rock and fast exit out on a highway..

Here the climbers have been so diligent in creating trails as to not bother the surrounding lands,, and now,, some jackwagons will tear the shite out of it in an effort to rip out granite from that same land.

10b4me

Boulder climber

Somewhere on 395

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:38am PT

Philo, I am also anti gun, but you seem over the top. Shall we say OCD?

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:41am PT

I sent an email to Hope Valley Outdoors to keep them in the loop. Good folks, I used to work there.

kennyt

climber

Woodfords,California

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 10:41am PT

Save the personal attacks for one of the gun nut or political threads guys.

T Hocking

Trad climber

Redding, Ca

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:45am PT

Tad,, it will be better if each of us write the Carson Ranger District. Will make more of an impact if they receive e mails continually

Copy that, will do.
Tad

mechrist

Gym climber

South of Heaven

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:53am PT

Ain't no thang:

"extract up to 500 tons (~315 cubic yards) of granitic boulders annually, ranging from hand-size to three feet in length (approximately 1-2 pounds up to a ton)."

"Only hand-tools would be utilized to manage the rock. Only solitary rocks or those accessible by hand excavation would be available for collection."

Hell, I might even go out and volunteer... maybe get them to excavate some of the larger boulders and even out the landings a bit. You can't climb on anything <3' anyway.

"Enough rock debris would remain in place to stabilize slopes and deter erosion."

Provisions to ensure the above should be strongly emphasized in any letter. Cloudburst Canyon is a teetering pile of choss and the removal of one single 3' boulder could cause the entire canyon to gully out. No, just joking, but it could cause some serious gullying if the boulders are plucked out of the hillslope. If it creates a head cut it would seriously affect the stability of that loose pile of choss they call a "trail" that leads to OOTD.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 10:58am PT

Ive already sent a lengthy e mail to the addy Kenny posted. I will do the same with the Dist Ranger as well, as that is the signature required to see this through..

kennyt

climber

Woodfords,California

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 11:09am PT

I think this keith guy is retiring at the end of the month and Genny Wilson is taking over

Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 11:11am PT

ohw guddie...(sigh)....

Im grabbin every artifact i have ,, headin to the canyon, and do me sum planting. ;-)

Anyone got an old SKULL, we can borrow??

Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 11:13am PT

and how many SPOTTED OWLS did you see last weekend Kenny!!!!;-D

mechrist

Gym climber

South of Heaven

Dec 23, 2012 - 11:13am PT

^^^ THAT should help protect the climbing. Hey, you should smear some red paint at the base of OOTD and High Energy too.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber

Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal

Dec 23, 2012 - 11:14am PT

"lightn up francis"

rick sumner

Trad climber

reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska

Dec 23, 2012 - 11:15am PT

I don't understand you folks objecting to this proposal.The affected area is minimal; less than 4 acres, the extraction is limited to free (unattached to bedrock) boulders less tham 3 feet in diameter, only hand tools will be used, actually 500 tons/yr and a total of 1500 tons is miniscule, really. This sounds like not much more than collection of small rocks that would otherwise naturally self trundle onto the hwy. within a few decades anyway.Are you guys suggesting starting another friends of anti-capitalism which would be nothing more than advancement of bleeding heart liberal causes? Ron think about and investigate more before you act, if you will.