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kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
The Forest service is considering a proposal from a masonry contractor to remove 1500 tons of granite from Cloudburst canyon. (one of these days area) sounds like a smoke show in the making.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558/abc123/forestservic.download.akamai.com/11558/www/nepa/92124_FSPLT2_290435.pdf
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
Damm Kenny!!!!!!!!

Ill be writing ONE HELLA long letter to them....


Kinda makes one wonder why we "saved the rock" doesnt it!!?
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:29pm PT
Yeah, this is f*#king crazy I'm thinking this is in the paking area.Maybe if enough people voice their opposition this won't happen
WBraun

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:29pm PT
Good

They should remove all rocks.

Rocks don't do anything, they're stupid.

Throw them into the ocean.

Make Wall Marts in their place.

Wall Mart has good deals for the American consumer ......
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:31pm PT
500 TONS a year...???

Its SMACK in a RIPARIAN zone and the EA says "minimal impact"?????


I know the district is hurting like all others,, HOWEVER,,ripping out granite from THE most pristine canyon around is fuggn ridiculous.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
Good

They should remove all rocks.

Rocks don't do anything, they're stupid.

Throw them into the ocean.

Make Wall Marts in their place.

Wall Mart has good deals for the American consumer ......
WallMart has low prices or gravel.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:34pm PT
Yeah, low impact motorized wheelbarrows, trucks and allowed to disturb up to 4 acres of vegetation.
WBraun

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
LOL

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
A word of caution Herr Braun, this could cause the oceans to rise, leading to the flooding of the Wallmarts!

Whether this would be good or bad for Americans is left to the readers.


Rock me on the water, we'll get down to the sea somehow.


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:39pm PT
I can just see the dirt slides hitting the highway..Not to mention trundles.

Didnt see any sections of the operating plan,, like will they POST it temporarily to trespassing-- as in safety measures??

I have a butt load of questions for them..
I will use every trick, every favor owed and every one i know to see this plan goes down the toilet.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Lock and Load Ron.
Stupid Gravel.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:42pm PT
get lost philowwww,, you AINT WERNER....


But AS USUAL, youll stoop to the lowest to get yur digs in,, like bagging on your own family,, or ROCK AND ROCK CLIMBERS.
TFSTFU

Trad climber
Utah
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
I hope this doesn't happen, woodfords is a great escape.

Edit: philo, you ever listen to yourself, cause you sound like a f*#kin idiot. I'm against guns, but you're an anti-gun nut.
adikted

Boulder climber
Tahooooeeeee
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
This would be tragic.... I hope they dont ruin such a beautiful area!!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
My guess is they would keep an eye on this for a bit but before you know this will become this guys private stash.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
get lost philowwww,, you AINT WERNER....
To which I am sure we are both quite pleased.
Thanks Ron I made $50 on your predictability.


Hey TFPTSD go lick a frozen lamp post.


Seriously now folks if this is important to you y'all best be getting up to date on this proposal and working through channels as early as possible. Let me mention that at one point Eldo was up for sale to a gravel company. Think how tragic that would have been?

Stupid Gravel.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 23, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
Don't despair gentlemen. They will make new roads, which means easier access to the crags, They will take some rock out, but that's OK. It's just like remodeling, and for Kenny it means an opportunity to put up new routs!

But seriously, I will write to the Forest service to oppose this project.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
Maybe a new campground!!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 23, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
Yep Kenny.. And just how is this going to be tallied?? By contract inspections with scales,, HUGE scales???

And can you see rock laden trucks pulling out of a somewhat BLIND turn with traffic zooming downhill? Minimal impacts?? Doubtful.. Not to mention those that will see that going on, and figure they too can nab some granite. Perhaps we should go do some indian signs on the rock there,, antique it so it looks viable,, then call the tribe..;-)


But seriously, we are looking at the END of this report,, as when the USFS does an EA or an EIS,, its all but a done deal...

THE ONLY chance we have is for GOOD PEOPLE to get up and write their disgust of this,,,TODAY!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
I, was thinking the discovery of a couple arrowheads would be ideal
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