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kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
The Forest service is considering a proposal from a masonry contractor to remove 1500 tons of granite from Cloudburst canyon. (one of these days area) sounds like a smoke show in the making.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558/abc123/forestservic.download.akamai.com/11558/www/nepa/92124_FSPLT2_290435.pdf
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:29pm PT
Yeah, this is f*#king crazy I'm thinking this is in the paking area.Maybe if enough people voice their opposition this won't happen
WBraun

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:29pm PT
Good

They should remove all rocks.

Rocks don't do anything, they're stupid.

Throw them into the ocean.

Make Wall Marts in their place.

Wall Mart has good deals for the American consumer ......
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
Good

They should remove all rocks.

Rocks don't do anything, they're stupid.

Throw them into the ocean.

Make Wall Marts in their place.

Wall Mart has good deals for the American consumer ......
WallMart has low prices or gravel.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:34pm PT
Yeah, low impact motorized wheelbarrows, trucks and allowed to disturb up to 4 acres of vegetation.
WBraun

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
LOL

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
A word of caution Herr Braun, this could cause the oceans to rise, leading to the flooding of the Wallmarts!

Whether this would be good or bad for Americans is left to the readers.


Rock me on the water, we'll get down to the sea somehow.


philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Lock and Load Ron.
Stupid Gravel.
TFSTFU

Trad climber
Utah
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
I hope this doesn't happen, woodfords is a great escape.

Edit: philo, you ever listen to yourself, cause you sound like a f*#kin idiot. I'm against guns, but you're an anti-gun nut.
adikted

Boulder climber
Tahooooeeeee
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
This would be tragic.... I hope they dont ruin such a beautiful area!!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
My guess is they would keep an eye on this for a bit but before you know this will become this guys private stash.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
get lost philowwww,, you AINT WERNER....
To which I am sure we are both quite pleased.
Thanks Ron I made $50 on your predictability.


Hey TFPTSD go lick a frozen lamp post.


Seriously now folks if this is important to you y'all best be getting up to date on this proposal and working through channels as early as possible. Let me mention that at one point Eldo was up for sale to a gravel company. Think how tragic that would have been?

Stupid Gravel.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
Maybe a new campground!!!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
I, was thinking the discovery of a couple arrowheads would be ideal
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 23, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
If its where I think it is ( just downhill from Joyce's store and the CG), that's a pretty dangerous spot for dump trucks to be entering the flow of traffic.

Edit; from what I've been told, that north side is great for rock hounding. Like huge payout great.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
Project contact: Keith Whaley 760-932-7070 kwahley@fs.fed.us

Flood this guys e-mail and voicemail!
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Dec 23, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
Philo, I am also anti gun, but you seem over the top. Shall we say OCD?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 23, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
I sent an email to Hope Valley Outdoors to keep them in the loop. Good folks, I used to work there.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
Save the personal attacks for one of the gun nut or political threads guys.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 23, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
Ain't no thang:

"extract up to 500 tons (~315 cubic yards) of granitic boulders annually, ranging from hand-size to three feet in length (approximately 1-2 pounds up to a ton)."

"Only hand-tools would be utilized to manage the rock. Only solitary rocks or those accessible by hand excavation would be available for collection."

Hell, I might even go out and volunteer... maybe get them to excavate some of the larger boulders and even out the landings a bit. You can't climb on anything <3' anyway.


"Enough rock debris would remain in place to stabilize slopes and deter erosion."

Provisions to ensure the above should be strongly emphasized in any letter. Cloudburst Canyon is a teetering pile of choss and the removal of one single 3' boulder could cause the entire canyon to gully out. No, just joking, but it could cause some serious gullying if the boulders are plucked out of the hillslope. If it creates a head cut it would seriously affect the stability of that loose pile of choss they call a "trail" that leads to OOTD.
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