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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:16pm PT
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Very true. This past summer as my very experienced partner and I were about to start one of our raps off a route. He was about to launch off, when I looked at his system and saw that only one loop of his rope was through his ATC into the biner. No, I didn't always chack before, now I do.
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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
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Wow, Cragman and I posted in essence the same story--different incidents--simultaneously---just goes to show the validity of the OP.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
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... before each and every lead.
But what about the Topropers - They get no partner luv?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
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My old El Cap partner and I started being waaay more vigilant about this a few years ago, which we never did in the way back machine.
I've been much more hardcore about this with all partners since around 2006.
I even started a similar thread a couple years back, but I called it "Safety Pledge" so Donini was a hater. It really befuddled me.
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ladyscarlett
Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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I have to admit....i am rarley moving so fast that I can't check, even if it's non verbal.
Once, I took over a lead belay from a complete novice, who had never belayed before while the leader was a third up the route. I asked the leader to show his stuff and low and behold, the rope is only threaded through the bottom tie in loop of his 2 loop harness. Blowing it off all the way to the top, back to the ground and after, he insists it's 'not a big deal'.
Since then, I always check before my leader gets too far off the ground..
..and don't climb with leaders who don't to listen to my paranoia.heh.
cheers
LS
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
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It's about saving a life any way one can, you weed-clouded bozo.
Move this one over to the supertopo quotes thread, HA HA HA!!!!
Fuggin' Dean, yer ok man!
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
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I was climbing with an older British friend a few years back, the kind of guy with a twisted sense of humour. I was about to climb and said "In diving they teach you to do a buddy check but we never do it in climbing"
Jon says "Thats because climbing is supposed to be dangerous"
I always check my knot a second time when I get to the first clip just to make sure. Probably a good habit to get into.
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
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I always check. Always. Too easy to blow off.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
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It's about saving a life any way one can, you weed-clouded bozo.
...your stereotyping is offensive to weed-clouded bozos.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
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Dingus, we're going climbing sometime, that's it.
I like people that are interested in keeping me alive.
No offense glue huffer.....BWA HA HA hahahaaaa!!!
Edit: I'd go climbing with Crag too, but he wants me to lead some 5.7 in Tuolumne with no pro for 150 ft....... :0)
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:47pm PT
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You guys are giving me an idea for a 'toon about the relative merits between a safety check and a safety meeting.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
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I'll go climbing with you Locker, but I get to be the boss of safety checks!!
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ninjakait
Trad climber
a place where friction routes have velcro
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
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You guys make me chuckle.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
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i am quite glad that locker and crag feel so moved by this subject that they both need to actively bump this thread. i have been laughed at before for double checking everything but it aint no thing, compared to other results
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
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for a second there...I thought I was at the Deli...
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 11, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
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I've been a guide and instructor. I check everything all the time. It is habituated in me. It doesn't bother me in the least to have a relative noobcomer ask to check my tie in.
I still say "buckle up" to my kids in the car even though they know I will say it and they probably already did. What harm is there in vigilance?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 11, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
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Like Cragman and Alan Rubin, I caught a partner just as he was leaning out to start a rappel with only one rope through his ATC
And like them I understand the importance of doing this kind of checking.
However, unlike Cragman, I have a sense of humor, and would happily climb with Locker any day.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 11, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
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That somehow reading this thread would have made a difference???...
It wouldn't have...
Brother, you running low on something? You ok?
Maybe if people were double checking the day that Woody died?
No offense man, but what is wrong with reminding one another that we should dummy check things?
Are you so safe that nobody should ever consider checking again, when their life is in the cards too?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 11, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Dec 11, 2012 - 02:06pm PT
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saw that only one loop of his rope was through his ATC into the biner
Did the same thing this year. First rap mistake in 41 years.
Christ.
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