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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
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Kudos to fattrad.
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
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Thanks Jeff,
The replacement is the easy part. The money for the hardware is the hard part. It's people like you that make it all come together.
Roger Brown
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
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Good Job fattrad....
i thought he would have given all $5k to the Ryan Assault on the 14ers of colorado....
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
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Locker is always looking for dates...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 03:05pm PT
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One can always ask and be with certainty that this type of request is reasonable. By IRS rules a charitable fundraising group can expense out 90% of it's donations leaving only 10% for the nominal purpose. Where can the 90% go? Administrative salaries. Get it?
And your point is?
I ran a "not for profit" 501.c3 in NY back in the 80s. It was a chamber music group. Most of our donated and earned income went to salaries, our salaries (the musicians.) Our purpose was to perform music. We paid ourselves to do so.
I do know 1st hand that asca is a very lean running organization.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 13, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
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Bravo, PhatTrad! And I pee on the critics from a great height.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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I am sooo looking forward to living in a place where everyone is perfect
and boring. Until then I am happy to be here with people like Jeff.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 13, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
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Jaybro, get an email from Fatty about the election results.
That's what I want to see.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
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I honestly never doubted that he would stand by his word.
Prod.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
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He was probably going to donate the exact amount regardless...
TAX WRITE OFF...
I just DON'T buy into his sh!t at all...
Sure he gets the tax write off, so what! All a tax write off does is lower his taxable income by 5K, it still costs him +/-$3500 out of pocket. More than I gave this year....
Prod.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Nov 13, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
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Nice job Jeff!
Locker's always looking for dates. . . and when he get's one,
HE BAILS!!!!!!!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Nov 13, 2012 - 05:38pm PT
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Jeff
Well done and thank you for your generosity.
I've benefited from all three organizations, actually, all Yosemite climbers have.
Looking forward to running into you over a glass of wine or three. Hopefully soon. Sorry you weren't at Facelift.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
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Me? Kludge? I have no money, you know that. It was just three months or so ago I loaned you my last $30. I knew you were good for it. I think you paid me back within an hour!
Survival, what exactly do you want him to say about the election? It didn't go the way he wanted. Ask him on Facebook yourself, Jeff Elfont
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Nov 13, 2012 - 05:53pm PT
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Its hard to believe there are doubters.
Jeff is quite the philanthropist .
He has been supporting some of these causes for some time.
His heart is always in the right place even though he may find his foot in his mouth sometime.
Im not much for politics or anything for that matter so I dont miss him here but I did at facelift (he is always very generous there with wine and such) and witty and funny.
Here's a toast to the generous fatty!!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 13, 2012 - 06:26pm PT
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The only thing Locker is doing is bumping a thread to create more room to thank Fatty more.
Who cares whether he would have donated anyway. It probably would have been less than $5100.
If you want to diss Fatty, there's plenty of other places where he's more vulnerable
But why not have the credibility to laud good behavior and following through when it's deserved. He could have let the whole thing slide with ease and got even less grief than he's getting for honoring his word
Peace
karl
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Nov 13, 2012 - 06:51pm PT
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Jeff,
Nice job...
I knew you would cough -up the money...
Hope you are well..
Cheers
nita..
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Maybe I'm being a dickwad here... .....Yep,...as usual...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 13, 2012 - 06:55pm PT
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Hiya, Rox!
I wonder why fattrad hasn't resorted to the rotational avatar strategy that Rox uses so effectively...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 13, 2012 - 06:59pm PT
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From now on, it must be The Kind Fatty.
Very nice Jeff, kudos.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
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I wonder why fattrad hasn't resorted to the rotational avatar strategy that Rox uses so effectively...
Has to be because he will accept only full reinstatement.
Quite odd. Consider:
Face to face Jeff treats everyone very graciously. He certainly treats his clients graciously. He enjoys being around us at Facelift. So we know he thinks we have at least some merit.
He's not some fool thinking you can treat other people differently on the internet.
He surely does not think his approach sells anything.
Curious.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:04am PT
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Dollars in damages caused by arguments online involving fattrad: $0.00
Dollars donated by fattrad to help the community: $5100.00
Say what you want about fatty, he's only said words. Symbols on a screen expressed with 0's and 1's that we interpret in whatever way we see fit.
No, there is no need for him to exonerate himself - he hasn't done anything wrong. Talking sh#t online should be taken with a grain of salt - buyer beware.
Good on you, Jeff. Most of us here already knew you were a good dood, regardless of how much money you donated.
politically retarded, but a good dude :) jk...
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