climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:24am PT
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Actions speak louder than words.
Well done
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locker
Social climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:29am PT
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"Then how is it that the amounts and recipients match what was only requested a couple of days ago? He even threw in another $100."...
They DON'T match...
Even your post above proves that...
Bet = $5000.00
Amount posted = $5100.00
Apparently unlike others, I am not one to QUICKLY forget how much MANIPULATING that dude attempted...
Just NOT someone I will EVER quickly believe...
At least not without absolute PROOF...
But again, this is JUST my opinion and it holds ZERO weight...
So don't anyone get their panties in a fuking bunch please!!!...
;-)
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:31am PT
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Let the fat man carry his own water.
DMT
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jstan
climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:33am PT
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I am sure it took a thousand years for the first homo sapiens to learn how best to communicate face to face.
Do you suppose it will also take us a thousand years to figure out how to use the internet?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:35am PT
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Well stated, John!
More importantly to me, well done, Jeff!
John
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:35am PT
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They DON'T match...
Even your post above proves that...
Bet = $5000.00
Amount posted = $5100.00
Locker they are for the same recipients and for the same amounts, only with the contribution rounded up to the nearest hundred.
If he'd made only the minimum contribution called for by his bet, he would have given $1,666.67 to each. Instead he gave $1,700 to each.
All that proves is that he is generous.
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locker
Social climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:37am PT
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Granite...
Don't get me wrong...
I HOPE he has in FACT made those contributions and has fullfilled his BET...
But again, I am NOT one to QUICKLY forgive and forget...
LOST TRUST is VERY HARD to regain...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:39am PT
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Thing about fatty is he seemed infected with internet Troll syndrome and had too much time on his hands.
Every time I heard of someone meeting him in person.. at face lift or whatever they had good things to say about him.
SO perhaps it's best for him and us if he stays off the net but I'd like to meet him sometime for sure.
Anycase damn solid to give in a way that has a real chance of changing/saving lives. Good causes there.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:40am PT
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Considering that Greg Barnes and Chris Mac (ASCA) and Werner (YOSAR) view these pages frequently, a falsification of this information would be pretty stupid, and very quickly revealed.
Fortunately for me I have not needed the services of YOSAR, but I have benefited from ASCA (and also done replacement work using materials provided by them) so I'll say Thanks, Jeff!
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:40am PT
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Kudos to fattrad.
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locker
Social climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:42am PT
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"Considering that Greg Barnes and Chris Mac (ASCA) and Werner (YOSAR) view these pages frequently, a falsification of this information would be pretty stupid, and very quickly revealed."...
I personally would still like to see DATES attached to those donations...
;-)
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:45am PT
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Thanks Jeff,
The replacement is the easy part. The money for the hardware is the hard part. It's people like you that make it all come together.
Roger Brown
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Master of Kludge
Trad climber
Grizzly Gulch, WY
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:46am PT
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One can always ask and be with certainty that this type of request is reasonable. By IRS rules a charitable fundraising group can expense out 90% of it's donations leaving only 10% for the nominal purpose. Where can the 90% go? Administrative salaries. Get it?
How much actually goes to the stated purpose?????? And what are their administrative costs. Ask for tax records. It's your gift. Why not make your gift only to the ONES that are efficient & effective?
So much for what I think for those men of their words.
How is it that one can need money and not know the purpose?
Jaybro, I am sure you will be making a big contribution. Could you tell us how much you are willing to gamble?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:53am PT
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Good Job fattrad....
i thought he would have given all $5k to the Ryan Assault on the 14ers of colorado....
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:56am PT
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Locker is always looking for dates...
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locker
Social climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 11:58am PT
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"Locker is always looking for dates..."...
Well, NO SH!T!!!...
You see that as a BAD thing???...
;-)
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 12:05pm PT
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One can always ask and be with certainty that this type of request is reasonable. By IRS rules a charitable fundraising group can expense out 90% of it's donations leaving only 10% for the nominal purpose. Where can the 90% go? Administrative salaries. Get it?
And your point is?
I ran a "not for profit" 501.c3 in NY back in the 80s. It was a chamber music group. Most of our donated and earned income went to salaries, our salaries (the musicians.) Our purpose was to perform music. We paid ourselves to do so.
I do know 1st hand that asca is a very lean running organization.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 13, 2012 - 12:29pm PT
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Bravo, PhatTrad! And I pee on the critics from a great height.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
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I am sooo looking forward to living in a place where everyone is perfect
and boring. Until then I am happy to be here with people like Jeff.
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