A man of his word


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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:33pm PT
I am sure it took a thousand years for the first homo sapiens to learn how best to communicate face to face.

Do you suppose it will also take us a thousand years to figure out how to use the internet?

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
Well stated, John!

More importantly to me, well done, Jeff!


Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
They DON'T match...

Even your post above proves that...

Bet = $5000.00

Amount posted = $5100.00

Locker they are for the same recipients and for the same amounts, only with the contribution rounded up to the nearest hundred.

If he'd made only the minimum contribution called for by his bet, he would have given $1,666.67 to each. Instead he gave $1,700 to each.

All that proves is that he is generous.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
Thing about fatty is he seemed infected with internet Troll syndrome and had too much time on his hands.

Every time I heard of someone meeting him in person.. at face lift or whatever they had good things to say about him.

SO perhaps it's best for him and us if he stays off the net but I'd like to meet him sometime for sure.

Anycase damn solid to give in a way that has a real chance of changing/saving lives. Good causes there.

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
Considering that Greg Barnes and Chris Mac (ASCA) and Werner (YOSAR) view these pages frequently, a falsification of this information would be pretty stupid, and very quickly revealed.

Fortunately for me I have not needed the services of YOSAR, but I have benefited from ASCA (and also done replacement work using materials provided by them) so I'll say Thanks, Jeff!

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
Kudos to fattrad.
Roger Brown

Oceano, California
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
Thanks Jeff,
The replacement is the easy part. The money for the hardware is the hard part. It's people like you that make it all come together.
Roger Brown

State of Mine
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
Good Job fattrad....

i thought he would have given all $5k to the Ryan Assault on the 14ers of colorado....

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
Locker is always looking for dates...

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 13, 2012 - 03:05pm PT
One can always ask and be with certainty that this type of request is reasonable. By IRS rules a charitable fundraising group can expense out 90% of it's donations leaving only 10% for the nominal purpose. Where can the 90% go? Administrative salaries. Get it?

And your point is?

I ran a "not for profit" 501.c3 in NY back in the 80s. It was a chamber music group. Most of our donated and earned income went to salaries, our salaries (the musicians.) Our purpose was to perform music. We paid ourselves to do so.

I do know 1st hand that asca is a very lean running organization.
Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 13, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
Bravo, PhatTrad! And I pee on the critics from a great height.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 13, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
I am sooo looking forward to living in a place where everyone is perfect
and boring. Until then I am happy to be here with people like Jeff.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
Jaybro, get an email from Fatty about the election results.

That's what I want to see.

Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
I honestly never doubted that he would stand by his word.


Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
He was probably going to donate the exact amount regardless...


I just DON'T buy into his sh!t at all...

Sure he gets the tax write off, so what! All a tax write off does is lower his taxable income by 5K, it still costs him +/-$3500 out of pocket. More than I gave this year....


Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:35pm PT

Nice job Jeff!

Locker's always looking for dates. . . and when he get's one,

HE BAILS!!!!!!!

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 13, 2012 - 05:38pm PT
Well done and thank you for your generosity.
I've benefited from all three organizations, actually, all Yosemite climbers have.
Looking forward to running into you over a glass of wine or three. Hopefully soon. Sorry you weren't at Facelift.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
Me? Kludge? I have no money, you know that. It was just three months or so ago I loaned you my last $30. I knew you were good for it. I think you paid me back within an hour!

Survival, what exactly do you want him to say about the election? It didn't go the way he wanted. Ask him on Facebook yourself, Jeff Elfont

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Nov 13, 2012 - 05:45pm PT



Fish Finder

Social climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 05:53pm PT
Its hard to believe there are doubters.

Jeff is quite the philanthropist .

He has been supporting some of these causes for some time.

His heart is always in the right place even though he may find his foot in his mouth sometime.

Im not much for politics or anything for that matter so I dont miss him here but I did at facelift (he is always very generous there with wine and such) and witty and funny.

Here's a toast to the generous fatty!!
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