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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 13, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
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I just received this email;
Hi Jay,
Hopefully you are out climbing and having fun!!! Where?????
Please post this to ST exactly as written:
Elfont Charitable Fund
Tax ID Number: 680419449
Organization Name: AMERICAN SAFE CLIMBING ASSOCIATION
Mailing Address: PO BOX 1814
BISHOP, CA 93515
Contact Name: Greg Barnes
Phone Number:
Charitable Sector: Other
Grant Acknowledgment: Disclose Name and Address
Jeff Elfont
1440 Maria Ln.
Number 210
Walnut Creek, CA 94596-
Special Purpose: Designation: Where it's needed most
Grant Amount:
$1,700.00
Giving Account Name: Elfont Charitable Fund
Tax ID Number: 320030010
Organization Name: YOSEMITE CLIMBING ASSOCIATION
Mailing Address: PO BOX 89
YOSEMITE NTPK, CA 95389
Contact Name:
Phone Number:
Charitable Sector: Other
Grant Acknowledgment: Disclose Name and Address
Jeff Elfont
1440 Maria Ln.
Number 210
Walnut Creek, CA 94596-
Special Purpose: Designation: Where it's needed most
Grant Amount:
$1,700.00
Elfont Charitable Fund
Tax ID Number: 542081466
Organization Name: FRIENDS OF YOSAR INC
Mailing Address: PO BOX 611
YOSEMITE, CA 95389
Contact Name:
Phone Number:
Charitable Sector: Other
Grant Acknowledgment: Disclose Name and Address
Jeff Elfont
1440 Maria Ln.
Number 210
Walnut Creek, CA 94596-
Special Purpose: Designation: Where it's needed most
Grant Amount:
$1,700.00
Norton is a nameless troll, a weak individual.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
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Kudos to his Fatness
Just shows the 1% can save a lot of money living in his mom's basement ;-)
Somehow I knew this thread would be about Fatty.
Peace
Karl
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
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It was his call, but I wish he would have blacked out his TAX ID numbers and address (but perhaps it's his office).
Funds to good use....
Susan
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
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I stand corrected. He honored his commitment.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
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Thanks to Fatrad!
(I kinda, sorta, miss him.)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
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hey there say, jaybro and all...
i don't know all the 'what happens' as the 'don't get along'ers'
here... i just always hope and pray that folks sort it out
and keep our quilt sewed, to be a to its best potential for
all the climbers here...
you all really belong together...
well i just said that to say this:
i may not know what this is about, but i do know this, as
i come from a big family and have four kids, and now see the
grandkids and step-ones:
we are ALL different... and we all belong, for various reasons
on this ol' earth...
we all have heartfelt jobs that we do...
and outreaches and even 'in-reaches'--meaning our homes,
or as 'care-givers'..
some even, as i once was, don't do much (though i get to, now)
we just shine, instead, and bloom where we are planted...
thus, knowing that we are all differnt...
here's a hope and prayer for new buffering and
smoothing of the rough edges here, so folks
will overlap better and join better in either
conversations, debates, or presenting differences...
say--we may even find that we are all a bit the SAME as well,
in areas NOT yet seen, then...
god bless to all this day...
and may we all find our ways to give, even when we can't give funds:
we can sure give love or encouragement, or--
perhaps just a friendly HANDSHAKE when we come to find a differance
that we can't handle too well...
at least it makes for a new clear field, for the
next day, :)
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
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fattrad, if you really made those contributions, I'm quite impressed. Hope you are well, too.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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hey there say, ekat...
as to your post, just above...
Interesting. . . a friend and I were just discussing the dismay attached to people who bring nothing to the table that money can't buy.
No joy.
No sweetness.
No laughter.
No love.
Just something they bought and paid for; believing, wholeheartedly, that that's enough
(left the last part out, think it was, 'dismay')
WELL:
wow, i have seen that, as well:
folks that spoil kids with gifts, but never give them real time, or
the deeper love of: i am giving you time to share part of me, AND to get to know-and-relate you--that is a part that family members will never forget... (had to edit a bit, in there, that i left out)..
all the storebought stuff, to buy love that way, just amounts to a pile
of 'junk' later, when the kids turn into teenagers, and, are spoiled, and yet confused inside when they no longer get pacified... and--rightly then, as, no one knows or understand them (or what went wrong)... all everyone cares about then is: everyone is bothered and 'inconvinienced'...
right now, i am praying for some folks related to us, over that, :(
love means, giving of yourself, with the care to give what is most precious:
TIME...
saidly it is misused and horded these days, :(
*just a commercial, folks--i know i took it a bit off track,
but as to ekat's important note, but i've seen the 'principle in action' and how it's hurt families, so--it set me into:
mommy mode...
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
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I'm not surprised. well done fatty.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
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Give fatty a break. The contributions add up to $5100. I'm sure he ponied up
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10b4me
Boulder climber
member since 2002
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Nov 13, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
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thanks Jeff.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
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Nice. All to good causes
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
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hey there say, ekat... thanks for sharing... yeah, i did not think you had, but on the net, it is good to tie things up, so everyone can know what we were getting at--in person, it is so easy to see and know...
yep--it just reminded me of a sad situation that i am now seeing in a family, and have seen FAR too often...
so i took it as a good point to share an extra
side note:
hope i did not confuse things here...
*hence--why i added it as a commercial, :)
i love how folks share, whether in general, or in funds, or in simply a hug:
it's just that nowadays, parents are too busy to understand these
real shares, while--many in the world, without kids, SEEM to understand...
i think it is due to many hardships that we see along our trails...
being 'out of the box' and into world, we SEE more than our self...
:)
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
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Actions speak louder than words.
Well done
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jstan
climber
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:33pm PT
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I am sure it took a thousand years for the first homo sapiens to learn how best to communicate face to face.
Do you suppose it will also take us a thousand years to figure out how to use the internet?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
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Well stated, John!
More importantly to me, well done, Jeff!
John
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
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They DON'T match...
Even your post above proves that...
Bet = $5000.00
Amount posted = $5100.00
Locker they are for the same recipients and for the same amounts, only with the contribution rounded up to the nearest hundred.
If he'd made only the minimum contribution called for by his bet, he would have given $1,666.67 to each. Instead he gave $1,700 to each.
All that proves is that he is generous.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
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Thing about fatty is he seemed infected with internet Troll syndrome and had too much time on his hands.
Every time I heard of someone meeting him in person.. at face lift or whatever they had good things to say about him.
SO perhaps it's best for him and us if he stays off the net but I'd like to meet him sometime for sure.
Anycase damn solid to give in a way that has a real chance of changing/saving lives. Good causes there.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
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Considering that Greg Barnes and Chris Mac (ASCA) and Werner (YOSAR) view these pages frequently, a falsification of this information would be pretty stupid, and very quickly revealed.
Fortunately for me I have not needed the services of YOSAR, but I have benefited from ASCA (and also done replacement work using materials provided by them) so I'll say Thanks, Jeff!
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