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philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
Wrong again Rong. Obama is the most supportive President the Palestinians have ever had to address. He is locked in an pre-existing Geo-Political tug of war. He can not endorse Hamas but he can support Palestine. Likewise he can not just cut Israel off from US tax payers billions. It will be a weaning.


Ron because you think it does not make it real. You are a victim Ron. A victim of an on-going propaganda campaign. When I think of Rong the phrase "Hook, Line and Sinker" comes immediately to mind.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
He could do nothing else. It didn't change a thing. Obama is still the most sympathetic President to Palestinians. And yet you would make it a case of total abandonment. Just as you would make his other statement a total endorsement of support to Isreal. It was NOT! You know NOTHING of the situation and should NOT wax idiotically about it.

Why on EARTh would anyone back any terrorist organizations is beyond me. And that is ALL that "palestine " is.
This proves my point quite succinctly.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
Ron, to put it politely, you have proven over and over again to be fact-challenged.

When asked to provide support for many of your claims, your sources are blogs, your buddies, or you provide no sources at all.

We're not even at the point of arguing about what we think should happen: we're arguing over basic facts. Others have suggested that you seek other sources and read a bit more.

Sorry, I sound like an as#@&%e for writing this, but it's true. That's why I don't bother engaging most of the time.

Still, I think you are a great guy. See-ya.

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philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
Those ignorant of the past are doomed to repeat it.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:12pm PT
Gee, I dunno, the fact the Persians are a unique culture unto themselves in a region of cultures hostile to theirs couldn't possibly be driving any of their thinking...

Ain't so much the Persians themselves, it's the crazy f*#kers running the place who seem to be the only ones on Earth dead-set on deploying a nuke.

Everyone else keeps their rhetoric off the maps, and their actions back that up.

Iran can not be allowed to have a nuke.

EDIT:
Iran had no involvement in the attack - the attack was committed by Salafis which is a fundamentalist Sunni sect, not a Shiite one. In fact, the Salafi are actively countering Iranian-backed Shiite influence in North Africa.

Wrong! The Saudis are trying to drop Syria. Iran hates the Saudis.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
Healyje, the only thing I will concur with you is it's time to go Ron Paul.

Bring everybody home, flip everybody off for now, and come home. Rebuild our home.

I'm tired of all this Sunni/Shiite bullsh#t. Let them cut themselves to pieces. Israel can defend herself.

This also means we stop propping up Muslim Brotherhood and other tin-pot as#@&%es. F*#k everybody! Bring the boyz home.

Oh, it also means we start drilling for oil here and developing our own resources.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
Damn Blue, right on!

The US is already drilling more since Obama took office, so you should be so happy you're ready to defect to the left, right?

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:38pm PT
Warbler, I'll always be a crazy conservative like Ron Paul. It's time to clean our own house. We are in bad shape. We need to re-group. Rebuild.
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:39pm PT


Bring everybody home, flip everybody off for now, and come home. Rebuild our home.

I'm tired of all this Sunni/Shiite bullsh#t. Let them cut themselves to pieces. Israel can defend herself.


Agreed. Amen. But don't we have to get off our oil addiction first?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:45pm PT
We have plenty of our own resources here at home, should we choose to extract them.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:46pm PT
Oh, it also means we start drilling for oil here and developing our own resources.

We've been doing that all along Ron. Thing is, it's a limited resource so once we run out, we'll be even more dependent so maybe drain theirs and then drill the parts of ours we're not wanted to now (cause it's in Yellowstone or the arctic) when the price is $200 a barrel

Peace

karl
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
Karl, we have over a hundred years of oil alone....

I'm Bluey, or Steve, too. Not Ron.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 08:07pm PT
Karl, we have over a hundred years of oil alone....

I dispute that. Prove it.

Plus, the tail end of oil is WAY more expensive than the first half. Heard of Peak Oil. We're there. Some folks say Fracking will save us but have you noticed gas is over $4?

US oil production peaked, as predicted in the 70s, and not because environmentalists put a stop to it

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/less-than-50-years-of-oil-left-hsbc-warns/

Even 50 or 100 years isn't a long time when we have little that promises to replace oil as a transportation fuel. You'll get yours but better hope reincarnation isn't true

Peace

karl
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 2, 2012 - 08:10pm PT
Buck the overlords who pay for your daily brainwashing: Think outside the barrel.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Dec 2, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
Karl, we have over a hundred years of oil alone....
Nope, we're gonna sell the tar sands to China cause you yanks jerked us over on softwood lumber.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 2, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
I read a blog about another blog about another blog, the gist of it as follows:Mr. Putin was a KGB colonel when he witnessed the fall of the Soviet Union courtesy of foreign adventures (Afghanistan and unruly satellite republics) fighting the U.S. by proxy, foreign aid distributed liberally across the planet,a currency crisis and unofficial inflation, and last but not least one Mikhail Gorbachev who couldn't have done a better job of singlehandedly dismantling the union if he had been a CIA deep plant.
Now nearly a quarter century later Mr. Putin is laughing his ass off all the way to the bank as the U.S. suffers nearly the exact same set of maladies that brought down his former empire. Maybe Romney knew something and didn't misspeak when he answered a debate question about who, besides our own disfunctional government, is the U.S.'s most dangerous foe.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
I'm Bluey, or Steve, too. Not Ron.

Sorry, Bluey,

Must have been reading the text and not the sidebar

I know you're not Ron, not that there's anything wrong with that

Except of this thread of course, and that GOP Wrong thread ;-)

Peace

Karl
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 2, 2012 - 09:02pm PT
Ron, i can't attest to the accuracy of the info from the blog of a blog of a blog anymore than i can attest to the accuracy of the info these other posters use to bolster their "opinions" on. I am highly suspect of any information currently available on any medium, it all seems like propaganda whose purpose is to manipulate the masses and pit american against american.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
Ron, i can't attest to the accuracy of the info from the blog of a blog of a blog anymore than i can attest to the accuracy of the info these other posters use to bolster their "opinions" on. I am highly suspect of any information currently available on any medium, it all seems like propaganda whose purpose is to manipulate the masses and pit american against american.


I agree, but at some point you have to analyze available data and extrapolate what you can based on the data available. You have to use your own judgement based on what is presented.

You can't just say everything is BS. Gotta sift through the sh#t with a comb though!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
Karl, everyone knows we have AT LEAST a hundred years of oil (shale/oil/ etc..). Some say 200 years. Not to mention Canada (Keystone?) and Mexico. We should tell the f*#king Saudis to f*#k themselves and pound sand!

Let's do more business with our North American bros.

Rick is right too. The Russians are feisty little f*#kers. Let's not f*#k with them. Like Libya/Syria. We saw how that turned out.

We need to back off. Come home. Regroup. We are positioned nicely to do this. Let them eat themselves to pieces. We have a nice body of water insulating US from THEM.

F*#k them!
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