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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
waiting Ken ...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
but NOT holding breath....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/17/usa-fiscal-idUSL1E8MG58W20121117


600 billion in new taxes coming? say it aint so joe..

Obama says taxing the upper crust wont make enough money...
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 18, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
hhhmmmm lemme see,,, im against violent radical islamists,, gang bangers and a law (NDAA 2103) which was first written long ago by hitlers staff.

And that makes me somehow unpatriotic? Because im against socialism's that will bankrupt us in no time makes me unpatriotic?


Yes, you pink slime, when you state that the Congress of the United States is Hitler's Staff, you are unpatriotic scum.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
Where did i say that Ken..


The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said..


Now TELL ME what youve done for our country. You wanna call my patriotism out -fine. Im callin yours. GIVE ME YOUR LIST or your just another limp wristed malingerer...
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
limp wristed

This is devolving quickly....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
pink slime and unpatriotic scum are ok,, but limp wristed isnt?































snort,, chuckle....
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:36pm PT
"...indeed Bush pulled some heavy duty BS in engaging Iraq-and now Obama is doing the same. "


Just to entertain your kool-aid soaked mind for a minute...

You're drawing an equivalency between the Shrub/Neocon shenanigans that placed us squarely and purposely into a pointless war with the Obama Administration's supposed inadequate security efforts & cover-up attempts in Libya?

Those two are equivalent?

Really?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
"The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said.."

Another weird equivalency.

And pretty slimy, at that.

You guys are pretty desperate these days.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
Yeesh apogee....No,, i didnt say ANYTHING of the like.. I DID say things about the NDAA including the pre-planning of the budget for an attack on IRAN, and i did say that Libya IS indeed an Obama debacle.

By the way,, Obama says taking the few rich types isnt going to be enough..




Apogee, what would YOU CALL detaining citizens with military for being "belligerent" sent off to gitmo for ten years before getting trial under a military tribunal? WHERE ON EARTH does this fit into the constitution, liberty or freedom?



edit: of course it wont be GITMO,, but one of the many detention centers being built and ammo cashes supplied to in the country.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 18, 2012 - 04:32pm PT
The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said..


YOUR language is VERY MUCH like that of the KKK, the Nazi's, the Stalinists, all of the fascists of history.

What does that tell us about you?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
Your quite whacked this morn Ken...


STILL waiting for your list of patriotic duties though..
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 18, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Now TELL ME what youve done for our country. You wanna call my patriotism out -fine. Im callin yours. GIVE ME YOUR LIST or your just another limp wristed malingerer...

You have this bizarre concept that, instead of doing things because you love your country, you are accumulating "get out free" cards that allow you to do anything TO your country.

You appear to be in the same category of Aldrich Ames and other traitors, who thought that their life of public service allowed them to be traitors, and it is just fine.

I couldn't care less about your list of accomplishment, while you trash your country. Stand by your words, don't hide behind your history.
OR

Trad climber
Nov 18, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
YOUR language is VERY MUCH like that of the KKK, the Nazi's, the Stalinists, all of the fascists of history.

What does that tell us about you?

Really? I may not agree with Ron all the time but that statement is absurd. TOTAL FAIL.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 18, 2012 - 06:16pm PT
thanks OR.. Kens kinda out there today.

Israel is getting serious with Hamas- forces now fighting in Gaza.

If my predictions are right, Obama will concentrate on Iran while Israel takes out Syria as well. Pre planned budgets for attacking Iran wont be wasted, thats govt 101. Spend every dime of your budget- so next year we get more. I did that very thing in the USFS.


Of course,, WASHINGTON is far to concentrated on who f*cked who and such so im sure they arent up to date with much else. The 'efforts' to find out the Benghazi bungle are going to be a long second to the sexual emails of generals - sounds like a SOAP OPERA....
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 18, 2012 - 06:55pm PT
Republicans - the party of hysteria and drama.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 18, 2012 - 08:36pm PT
edit: as for the NDAA ,, indeed it isnt just a dem or repub thing,,it IS a downright COMMUNISTIC thing.

Big difference between Communism and Fascism,

We've got the basis for Fascism in place but more subtle.

Sorta like Imperialism. Countries used to have to invade a country and dominate them in order to have an empire. now we do it with trade policies, the world bank, IMF, and other tricks. We make them keep their own slaves to us so we don't have to.

Same with Fascism (Tyrannic government and Corporations in cahoots) The Elite money and power rule us but keep us from even realizing that they've bought the system and the laws being passed are ready to use against us if we wake up and try to change things

PEace

karl
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 19, 2012 - 12:42am PT
OR, Ron likes to make sweeping generalizations, drawing similarities to things that are in no way related, like the Congress and Nazis. This is his approach, and I just get tired of it.

I thought he'd see how he liked the technique applied to him. Apparently, he feels that his diminishes his worth and contributions. Of course, that would not apply to anything or anyone that HE attacked in the same way.

Perhaps he might open his eyes.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:54am PT
Ken ill never be diminished by some politard thread on a forum.

Todays news: 110 rockets have been fired at Israel in the last couple of days from Hamas.



and TAXES will be GOING UP FOR 163 MILLION workers...!!!!!!!!!!


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/psst-taxes-2013-163-million-134829232.html
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 20, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
Top Five Worst Obamacare Taxes Coming in 2013

Of the twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare, below are the five worst that will be foisted upon Americans for the first time on January 1, 2013:
The Obamacare Medical Device Tax – a $20 billion tax increase: Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. Obamacare imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on gross sales – even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. In addition to killing small business jobs and impacting research and development budgets, this will increase the cost of your health care – making everything from pacemakers to prosthetics more expensive.
The Obamacare “Special Needs Kids Tax” – a $13 billion tax increase: The 30-35 million Americans who use a Flexible Spending Account (FSA) at work to pay for their family’s basic medical needs will face a new government cap of $2,500 (currently the accounts are unlimited under federal law, though employers are allowed to set a cap).
There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are several million families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare tax provision will limit the options available to these families.
The Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income – a $123 billion tax increase: This is a new, 3.8 percentage point surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income:

Capital Gains
Dividends
Other*
2012
15%
15%
35%
2013+ (current law)
23.8%
43.4%
43.4%
The table above also incorporates the scheduled hike in the capital gains rate from 15 to 20 percent, and the scheduled hike in dividends rate from 15 to 39.6 percent.
The Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deductions – a $15.2 billion tax increase: Currently, those Americans facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). This tax increase imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. By limiting this deduction, Obamacare widens the net of taxable income for the sickest Americans. This tax provision will most harm near retirees and those with modest incomes but high medical bills.
The Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike -- an $86.8 billion tax increase: The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Under this tax hike, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate instead. This is a direct marginal income tax hike on small business owners, who are liable for self-employment tax in most cases. The table below compares current law vs. the Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike:

First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee
All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee
Current Law
1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed
1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed
Obamacare Tax Hike
1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed
1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed

Click here to view PDF form.
Posted by John Kartch on Friday, September 28, 2012 2:58 PM EDT


Read more: http://atr.org/five-worst-obamacare-taxes-coming-a7217#ixzz2CnCApEmY
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