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Nov 11, 2012 - 09:48am PT
"LaRaza seeks to take over the west and repopulate it turning it into mexico, which they believe their sixty year stint here gives them rights to the land."

Ooohhh...that's good to know

I'm going to send them a link to your posts right now, so they know who their real enemy is

Their drug lords will then have you stuffed and mounted on their office wall, as a warning to the white race
Dr. F.

Ice climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:50am PT
Well this tread has proved that your average Democrat is sane and well educated

and your average Republican is a moronic idiot with little or no education, and is a dupe for any thing Fox News wants to lie about and use against the Democrats

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:53am PT
La Raza is the cartel?

They want to turn the western US into Mexico?

Wow. You've been looking around some funny places Ron.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 11, 2012 - 10:09am PT
well DUH Survival.. OF course the cartel would ADVERTISE themselves on a website...(insert rolling eye imoticon here)

And Brandon,, as you clearly see, there IS NO RESPECT here. There is the dems coming in with all manner of insults,, but as for discussion of the topics i brought up,, zippo. Dems dont seem willing to discuss anything here so they jab instead. If that isnt clear to you buddy,, then you arent seeing the forest for the trees.

ANY govt official that sat and watched the benghazi attacks for 6 hours doing nothing shall not garner any respect from me.

Ill bet you didnt know Denver has a Columbus day parade every year that several other hate groups try to break up, year after year. You WONT see that on ANY TV channel..

There are black hate groups against mexicans, whites, and asians. There are mexican hate groups against everyone that isnt. There are white hate groups that hate any one that isnt. Then there are the islamist hate groups which hate the enire western civilization.

so what are YOUR ideas to solve problems like in the above video Brandon?


Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 11, 2012 - 11:29pm PT
"Lifelong dissent has more than acclimated me cheerfully to defeat. It
has made me suspicious of victory. I feel uneasy at the very idea of a
Movement. I see every insight degenerating into a dogma, and fresh
thoughts freezing into lifeless party line."
--Isador Feinstein Stone, I.F. Stone's Bi-Weekly (May 19, 1969)

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 11, 2012 - 11:55pm PT
Ron, dude, you're losing it.

Nov 12, 2012 - 12:13am PT
I.F. Stone - respect. I read those Bi-Weekly's when I was a little kid.

Here's his last one, they looked like this:

BITD, when shooting off your mouth took some effort.
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Nov 12, 2012 - 06:18am PT
Anders, I was baffled at first but then...

Also called democrat wagon. a high, lightweight, horse-drawn wagon, usually having two seats.

The best things on this thread? The pix of Temple Crag and indeed, the one of the 'crag' in Patagonia. But which has the better rock and which is more choss?

Ron, are you intent on becoming the new Fattrad or Lois (two people I like and get along with, but...) or...

...on a 'find search' of the thread, it tells me that Ron is more than 100 searches. Now let's see, and remember, I am not great at arithmetic of mathematics, but as of now 533 posts to this thread and Ron comes up over 100 times, but of course the find search will include posts that have the word Ron in it, but still... let me recheck with only posts Ron has posted, then I will do the maths.

At my count (but don't necessarily trust it as I am a liberal) Ron posted 133 times on this thread. Let's see 533 divided by 133 = OMG, some of us have too much time on our hands.

I can't believe I ate, oops, read the whole thing.

Is my point taken?

Nov 12, 2012 - 06:29am PT
Hahahahaha, the stupider someone is, the stupider the things they believe

Any paranoid lunatic can find any paranoid lunacy they want on the internet

Only makes you look more delusional - and stupider.

LOL...the author is "Tyrus W. Cobb, Former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan." I guess he got tired of playing for the Detroit Tigers.

BTW, today I saw a bumpers sticker that said "Don't Re-Nig in 2012." Yeah, I'm sure he is an average Dem.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 12, 2012 - 06:44am PT
Ron, you have GOT to be shitting me.

Are you not reading the signs or hearing what the "protesters" are saying?
The first guys flipped a bird and walked by with a Mexican flag.

Sure those people had a right to assemble, same as the Westboro Baptist people with their "god hates fags" signs at military funerals.

"Go back to Mexico!" assumes that none of them are American citizens.
Or is it a heritage protest not a nationality protest?

See Ron, I don't automatically ally myself with a white person because they are white. I want to know something about their mind or heart.
I know many great Mexicans who have ZERO intention of taking over the western USA. I'm trying to speak reasonably to you, but you seem to jump at any anti-Latino conspiracy you can get your hands on.
Where did you get this hatred of Mexicans anyway?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:04am PT
I DONT hate ANY "RACE"... You ALL failed to see the many GANG members in that vid didnt you...You must have not noticed the several gang signs that were given either.. Those shaved head homies in that vid were ALL ganbangers.

I HAVE NEVER been against GOOD Mexican folks here and know MANY- They are here to be Americans, learn the language and are proud to be so. They ARE in the grand tradition of American immigrants.

Who I HATE is the illegals that come here to indeed turn the USA into mexico, and there are thousands upon thousands that fall into that category. Perhaps i should have posted the vid of those good mexicans COMPLAINING about the very same thing.

I cant believe how narrow minded some of you are to only be able to see racism and not the actual facts.
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:04am PT
Survival, where does hatred of Mexicans come from?

I just watched Bandolero!

Those darn Mexican bandidos tried raping Raquel Welch, knifed Dean Martin and shot Jimmy Stewart.

Bogie found out...

"Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and chinga tu madre!"

Grrr, just as bad as American Gangstas.

Or Nazis, or WW2 Japanese soldiers, the KKK or those goddamn Fenian bastards.

In fact, anybody like me from the Bay Area. Grrr, we are gurriers. Trash, lefties, spawn of Satan, you name it... and it doesn't matter if it East Bay like me, the City, North Bay, South Bay, we are all doomed to hell. (Um, not all, Bluering and a couple of other Supertopians will go to heaven after The Rapture). I wonder if they have toilets in Hell? A bar? McDonalds? A Starbucks?

Heck, give me LIMBO, I'll even take Purgatory.

(I am trying to rack up as many posts on this thread as Ron, so he doesn't feel lonely.)


we are all doomed to hell

Or climbing at Mt Diablo or falling and being shredded like cheese at Pinnacles NM.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:14am PT
well Patrick since youve seemed to taken up a strange hobby of counting posts, i will inform you that docf asked me to leave his shitstain of a thread so i post here now.. I hope this clears up some of the driving mystery of your morning.
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:15am PT
Ron, not another mystery. There are too many mysteries in life. ;-)

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:21am PT
Yeah, I noticed the bald heads and the gang signs.

I also notice how much you bring up Mexicans, as opposed to all other hate groups you mention.

Mexicans, illegal or otherwise are not worse than white racists or muslim extremists.
Ignorance and hatred know no color or national boundaries. That's what we should be fighting.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:30am PT
Well dooood, if YOU had mexican gang members tapping caps in your drive way- you would suddenly become quite concerned. If you have HS helis over head on a DAILY basis, your concern would again grow. Ive never had run ins here with any other group. Ive never belonged to any hate group. But when confronted by amred mexican gang members, im not going to call out any other group besides that. There is violence across america EVERY NIGHT by these same individuals- the bay area alone is a shooting gallery with NIGHTLY shootings murders and bodies found. I cant remember hearing of another hate groups violence of late. But i wathc the news nightly to see the body count rising.

We have CARTEL members right here in moundhouse. In CC and Reno, garderveille and minden...They are ENEMIES of this country first and foremost. And Futher more, the good legal mexicans of this country DO NOT LIKE THEM one little bit, and if you think im hard on them, you should hear what those good folks have to say about their low class brethren..

a recent PSA here.


I've got some bad news for you today, and the situation appears as if it will only get worse.

The cartel wars in Mexico continue unabated, and the violence and the gangs themselves are increasingly appearing in American cities, including here in Northern Nevada. The gangs are tied into Mexican cartel drug operations, and they also smuggle illegal immigrants into the U.S., ship other contraband and carry cash for money-laundering.

The cartels control large swaths of territory in Mexico and many municipalities. They are waging violent turf battles over control of key smuggling corridors, employing hit men and groups of enforcers. Some of the cartels are using grenade launchers, automatic weapons, and even armored vehicles against outgunned Mexican law enforcement. More worrisome, many have mastered the roadside-bomb techniques employed by insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, and are using these improvised explosive devices against badly outgunned law enforcement agencies.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency estimates that 90 percent of the cocaine entering the U.S. comes through Mexico, primarily from Colombia, and heroin is increasingly part of the mix. Mexico is also a major drug-producing country itself, now the leading supplier of marijuana and methamphetamine.

In Mexico, the violence is primarily the outgrowth of rival cartels expanding their areas of domination. Just since 2006, the body count from cartel-related violence is over 46,000 dead. While most of the casualties are members of one cartel or the other, more than 1,000 Mexican police, military and political figures have been slaughtered, as have numerous innocent civilians who were caught in the crossfire.

The cartels have established a presence here as well, and are regarded as far more sophisticated and dangerous than any other organized criminal group in the United States. Larry Martines, former director of homeland security in Nevada and a retired Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department official who carefully tracks gang and cartel activities, worries that inter-gang warfare may break out in this area. Gangs tied into different cartels are working in this region as paid associates in the smuggling of drugs and people. This involves mostly Chicano gangs such as the Surenos and the Nortenos, but Martines has identified members of the Crips and Bloods operating here as well.

Martines believes that many members of the Nortenos ( from Northern California ) and the violent MS-13 gang have established a presence here. He says that some Surenos ( from Southern California ) are in Northern Nevada, as well. All three of these groups are associated with different Mexican cartels that are at war with each other and may be competing for control of turf in this region.

Why? The Reno-Sparks area is located on I-80, a major transit route for drugs and illegal aliens. Establishing control over this route would represent a major advantage for a cartel or gang, giving it significant influence over a key cross-country shipping grid.

Martines worries that once one of these gangs establishes control over part of the community, it would take a long, difficult and expensive effort to take back our streets.

Washoe County Sheriff Mike Haley recognizes the increasing presence of gangs in this region but believes that the associations they have with the Mexican cartels are not particularly strong. He characterizes the relationships more like "mercenaries," with gang members renting their services out to different cartels at various times. The local gangs, he says, are "Reno-centric" and will do whatever rewards them the most.

What to do now? Martines advocates stepping up border security and argues that many of the illegal immigrants coming into the U.S. from Mexico are also carrying drugs and other contraband. He believes that the federal government should stop suing states for trying to enforce measures to halt illegal immigration into the U.S. and instead focus its efforts on securing the border.

However controversial, he also recommends "profiling" here as part of an invasive surveillance and harassment program to identify gang members. That won't be hard to do since the gangs go to great efforts to openly identify themselves with explicit and easily seen tattoos.

Let's hope that political correctness doesn't stop us from taking the measures necessary to stop this growing threat before it becomes permanently emplaced.

there is well over 400,000 SERIOUS criminal gang members from the cartels here NOW.. This ISNT comparable to americas plethora of tiny hate groups- and the proof is in incarceration numbers , police reports and LEO dealings- at a cost of over billions a year.

edit: Much talk by our politicians about the "war on drugs" yet they have let at least THREE different cartels to come here and set up shop.

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 12, 2012 - 08:03am PT
Ill bet you didnt know Denver has a Columbus day parade every year

Yes that is true in fact Colorado became the first state to observe an official Columbus Day in 1905.

that several other hate groups try to break up, year after year.

But this isn't true. As a proud Choctaw Ron should know that most Native Americans are not fond of Columbus Day in the least. There have been concerted efforts by a coalition of groups to curtail the annual parade but traditions die hard. There are protest parades as counterpoint but Denver does a good job of keeping the peace.

You WONT see that on ANY TV channel.

You won't because these are not "Hate Groups" and the Parades quite appropriately coexist.

By the way look up Colorado's history regarding two things.
1; look up the connection between Colorado and the KKK and in particular the involvement of Denver Police.
2; fast forward a generation or two and look into Denver's role in Martin Luther King Day and Parade.

And then let me tell you of the annual counter protests. Now those fux ARE hate groups.

Thank God that people can learn, grow and progress.
Your turn Ron.
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Nov 12, 2012 - 08:44am PT
Ron, your mystery is my misery... or is the other way around?


Ronnie, over 14,000 posts since 2009, wow, not a Supertopo record, but...
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Nov 12, 2012 - 09:10am PT
TGT, regarding your 1800s drawings, you do realize that both the Democrat and Republican parties were far different then than as today. Nice try at parody though, but, it doesn't seem your forte.

(Am I getting closer to the number of Ron posts on this thread?)

Trad climber
San Francisco
Nov 12, 2012 - 12:16pm PT
Whichever side you voted for, please vote for real reasons!

this video is very enlightening...(it happens to be about Romney fans..but that is not the point)

Highlight: 4:05 - 4:44


If I got spontaneously interviewed, I would look pretty silly, so I let a lot of these people off the hook. However...the rest of the people in this video made me laugh out loud, multiple times...and then start crying at the thought that this is real.
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