Gates in or gates out?? Racking up inquiry.


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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 12, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
Just curious how most ppl do it & if there is any logic behind either way? I rack up with the biner gates facing in, towards my harness. Always have, & for no particular reason other than that is how i was taught. I notice a few of my friends & some others rack up with biner gates facing outwards, anyone here do that? If so, what is the benefit?

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
If I have one cam on each biner I do up and in. but for wireds I do down and out.

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Oct 12, 2012 - 09:15pm PT
whatever floats your boat!

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
That's kind of what I thought nutjob. Only pro/con I can think of is that it may be easier for a biner to come off your harness if the gate was facing outwards as it could get opened easier & potentially hooked on something? I guess I should rephrase the OP to- "what do you do & what is cooler- looking?"
Big Mike

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
I rack mine facing in too Ryan. I've never had anything pop off of my harness... Kieran faces his outward and dropped my 1.75 friend and had to trade me it for his .75 Camalot...

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
Is this like the toilet paper thing?

Which answer gets me laid?

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
The occurrence of unclipping/dropping is probably about the same, but I've had more droppage occur with gates in than gates out. I think.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
However I damn well please...



Fish Boy

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
What did you do with your cam Mike? Throw it away? So you wouldn't climb with me on that #3 cam that had fallen of Rock On that day you and I were there? Farking bomber I reckon!

Gates out, I drop a lot of gear, but I also find a lot. Seems a fair trade off to me.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
I rack in but out is definitely sexier. I've been thinking of switching teams. Whaddaya think?

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:45pm PT
REAL men use 1" webbing....
Big Mike

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
Fish, kieran is still using it.. It's one thing if I drop my gear, something else entirely to have your partner do it.. I'm pretty sure we used that 3 didn't we?

Mountain climber
portland, Maine
Oct 12, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
For those of us who climbed before gear loops. We used gears slings only.

How many us only gear slings?

Oct 12, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
I use whatever I can. Seriously, when I am trying to get out of a tight spot, I am tripping... I really hate chimney's. Totally suck at them and it makes racking a nightmare.

Trad climber
Bay Area
Oct 12, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer.
How many us only gear slings?
Harness loops only for quick draws and my personal stuff, lockers, nut tool, cord for an ascender knot, rapp ring.

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Oct 12, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
over left shoulder

gates in

everything else is heresy
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 12, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
Now that that's solved,
boxers or briefs?

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
Thanks for the replies everyone, still no consensus but some interesting replies. If u read the OP you would understand that the query wasn't whether u use a gear sling or not or what you carry with you when you climb. My question is still not clear I guess- "when putting carabiners on the gear loops of your harness do you face the gates towards or away from your body & more importantly why do you orient them in that particular direction?"

if you use a gear sling or not I don't care, they are impractical & useless for hard freeclimbing & more or less a leftover relic from a bygone era before harnesses with gear loops were around IMO. On a 2000' wall or for aid climbing sure, but lets say your about to get on a single pitch that only requires 6 quickdraws for gear??? Can we all put ourselves in this position for a moment?? If your carrying a sling still then maybe we need to start a seperate thread.

What I want to know is if there's a good reason or not to face the gates In a certain direction, besides looking cool & getting chicks as it would appear from the field research done here!
Captain...or Skully

Oct 12, 2012 - 11:58pm PT
Gates in, rope end down on draws. Gear is how it ends up, but I like gates in on everything. handier clipping? Maybe.
You're definitely gonna die. Just don't do it blowing the clip.

Gym climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 11:58pm PT

I alternate them...


On my gear sling...

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