Gates in or gates out?? Racking up inquiry.

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apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Oct 12, 2012 - 09:00pm PT

"Can we all put ourselves in this position for a moment?? If your carrying a sling still then maybe we need to start a seperate thread."

Well, aren't you special.

Mtnmun

Trad climber

Top of the Mountain Mun

Oct 12, 2012 - 09:01pm PT

My gates always face out. It saves a major wrist twist and is a much more fluid gear placement and removal. I always rack on my harness and never use a gear sling.

RyanD

climber

Squamish

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 09:01pm PT

Haha ok ur right apogee sorry I was trolling a bit too hard there!

Edit- mtnmum has a reason! Yes, thank you. I thought about the twisting of the wrist as a possible reason. Still gonna keep mine facing in.

Mtnmun

Trad climber

Top of the Mountain Mun

Oct 12, 2012 - 09:07pm PT

Try them out and you will never go back. Just sayin.

cintune

climber

Midvale School for the Gifted

Oct 12, 2012 - 09:18pm PT

Alternating. Best of both worlds and keeps the short-term memory sharp.

johnboy

Trad climber

Can't get here from there

Oct 12, 2012 - 09:27pm PT

All my gates in except the biners I rack my nuts on.

Those hurt my nuts either way.

briham89

Big Wall climber

san jose, ca

Oct 12, 2012 - 09:44pm PT

Munge covered it. Gates in, gear sling on the left shoulder....

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Oct 12, 2012 - 10:11pm PT

My gates always face out. It saves a major wrist twist and is a much more fluid gear placement and removal.

Me too.

I rack all on my harness when it's hot or I don't need a lot of gear. All on a gear sling when there's chimneys. Often slings / biners on harness and the rack on a gear sling when swapping leads.

jstan

climber

Oct 12, 2012 - 10:29pm PT

The bigger existential question is whether to rack on one's harness, or like real men to rack on a gear sling. Should be good for a couple hundred posts easy. Whether to have the carabiners face in or out is a trifle compared to this question.

When you have all that shyte on your harness what do you do when you have to move into an offwidth or a chimney? That would be interesting to see.

snowhazed

Trad climber

Oaksterdam, CA

Oct 12, 2012 - 11:11pm PT

I second mtnmun

Ihateplastic

Trad climber

It ain't El Cap, Oregon

Oct 12, 2012 - 11:25pm PT

All gear should be racked on locking 'biners that are fully locked. The gear sling should be long enough so the gear hangs just out of reach.

That's how you learn to run it out.

wallyvirginia

Trad climber

Stockholm, Sweden

Oct 13, 2012 - 12:45am PT

Harness loops only for quick draws and my personal stuff, lockers, nut tool, cord for an ascender knot, rapp ring.

^^^
+1

Sling over shoulder holding cams and nuts so I can swing them behind my back and out of the way when I need to. I keep em racked like that and just throw them in the bag when i'm done. Single or multipitch. Makes transfers easier when you're swinging leads too.

The qd's, I clip them gates out, out of habit. I think it has to do with the fact that my first harness had soft gear loops that didn't stand out and you had to clip from below. Otherwise you'd press the loop into your waist and had to fiddle around using your thumbs.. And it looks sexier!

Prod

Trad climber

Oct 13, 2012 - 06:36am PT

Interesting question. I start out gates in, but I find that if I fiddle with gear, and put it back on my harness for a different piece, it usually ends up gate out when I put it back.

I've tried racking on my harness and just don't like it.

For me quick draws, personal gear, and small nuts are on the harness, gates in. The rest is on a sling gates in.

Prod.

scooter

climber

fist clamp

Oct 13, 2012 - 06:59am PT

gates in. few movements to get the gear off harness. In 22 yrs of climbing never had anything fall off my harness.

whitemeat

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo, CA

Oct 13, 2012 - 07:05am PT

for people who use gear slings, how do you deal with the distraction of your gear swinging around when you free climb. and by the way i clip gates out because your thumb can clip the gate faster.

Borut

climber

french

Oct 13, 2012 - 07:27am PT

i'll find myself naturally clipping gear into the harness gates in, but i prefer unclipping from the harness if they're gates out, so it really depends on the situation.

climbski2

Mountain climber

Anchorage AK, Reno NV

Oct 13, 2012 - 07:41am PT

Gates in, sling over left shoulder, big in back small to the front.Nuts to front cams in back. Iron in front of all, camhooks in front of Iron. Ice screws in front also. Nuts Iron screws and hooks gate out since biner caries multiples. Free biners and draws between nuts and cams.

Filterless cigarettes, and lighter go in chalkbag. Chalk optional

Important!.. keyhole biners on cams!

Have been known to rack a specific cam that I am going to need on my shirt collar.

Briefs or commando

to the left

brunettes

blue

Any other questions?

Reeotch

Trad climber

4 Corners Area

Oct 13, 2012 - 07:56am PT

I always rack the gates out, because the gear sits more flush to your body with the flat spine of the carabiner in.

Also, look at the position you must contort you wrist into when unclipping a biner from your harness that has the gate facing in. I'm all about ergonomics, and unclipping biners with the gate facing out is just a more natural motion.

It makes much less difference on a gear sling.