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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:27am PT
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All my gates in except the biners I rack my nuts on.
Those hurt my nuts either way.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:44am PT
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Munge covered it. Gates in, gear sling on the left shoulder....
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 13, 2012 - 01:11am PT
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My gates always face out. It saves a major wrist twist and is a much more fluid gear placement and removal.
Me too.
I rack all on my harness when it's hot or I don't need a lot of gear. All on a gear sling when there's chimneys. Often slings / biners on harness and the rack on a gear sling when swapping leads.
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jstan
climber
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Oct 13, 2012 - 01:29am PT
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The bigger existential question is whether to rack on one's harness, or like real men to rack on a gear sling. Should be good for a couple hundred posts easy. Whether to have the carabiners face in or out is a trifle compared to this question.
When you have all that shyte on your harness what do you do when you have to move into an offwidth or a chimney? That would be interesting to see.
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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Oct 13, 2012 - 02:11am PT
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I second mtnmun
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Oct 13, 2012 - 02:25am PT
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All gear should be racked on locking 'biners that are fully locked. The gear sling should be long enough so the gear hangs just out of reach.
That's how you learn to run it out.
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wallyvirginia
Trad climber
Stockholm, Sweden
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Oct 13, 2012 - 03:45am PT
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Harness loops only for quick draws and my personal stuff, lockers, nut tool, cord for an ascender knot, rapp ring.
^^^
+1
Sling over shoulder holding cams and nuts so I can swing them behind my back and out of the way when I need to. I keep em racked like that and just throw them in the bag when i'm done. Single or multipitch. Makes transfers easier when you're swinging leads too.
The qd's, I clip them gates out, out of habit. I think it has to do with the fact that my first harness had soft gear loops that didn't stand out and you had to clip from below. Otherwise you'd press the loop into your waist and had to fiddle around using your thumbs.. And it looks sexier!
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Prod
Trad climber
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Oct 13, 2012 - 09:36am PT
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Interesting question. I start out gates in, but I find that if I fiddle with gear, and put it back on my harness for a different piece, it usually ends up gate out when I put it back.
I've tried racking on my harness and just don't like it.
For me quick draws, personal gear, and small nuts are on the harness, gates in. The rest is on a sling gates in.
Prod.
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scooter
climber
fist clamp
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Oct 13, 2012 - 09:59am PT
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gates in. few movements to get the gear off harness. In 22 yrs of climbing never had anything fall off my harness.
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Oct 13, 2012 - 10:05am PT
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for people who use gear slings, how do you deal with the distraction of your gear swinging around when you free climb. and by the way i clip gates out because your thumb can clip the gate faster.
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Borut
climber
french
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Oct 13, 2012 - 10:27am PT
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i'll find myself naturally clipping gear into the harness gates in, but i prefer unclipping from the harness if they're gates out, so it really depends on the situation.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oct 13, 2012 - 10:41am PT
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Gates in, sling over left shoulder, big in back small to the front.Nuts to front cams in back. Iron in front of all, camhooks in front of Iron. Ice screws in front also. Nuts Iron screws and hooks gate out since biner caries multiples. Free biners and draws between nuts and cams.
Filterless cigarettes, and lighter go in chalkbag. Chalk optional
Important!.. keyhole biners on cams!
Have been known to rack a specific cam that I am going to need on my shirt collar.
Briefs or commando
to the left
brunettes
blue
Any other questions?
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Oct 13, 2012 - 10:56am PT
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I always rack the gates out, because the gear sits more flush to your body with the flat spine of the carabiner in.
Also, look at the position you must contort you wrist into when unclipping a biner from your harness that has the gate facing in. I'm all about ergonomics, and unclipping biners with the gate facing out is just a more natural motion.
It makes much less difference on a gear sling.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Oct 13, 2012 - 11:17am PT
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Racking gates in is the result of creeping socialism.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:06pm PT
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If you have to ask, I recommend cross-stitch or cooking for a hobby.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
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maybe someone can figure it on the mountain project forum. always some nerds over there who can't agree how to fit everything in the world on their harness. yawn.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:42pm PT
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I rack my wiener to the right, but that's because I always use my right hand . . .
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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Locker! This could mean the difference between a send and a fail.
Of course it matters, especially on the Grit!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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How a real man racks:
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
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Haha ok now were getting somewhere. Seems like more ppl have a reason why to rack gates out than in. That is what i was wondering & that is why i posted it on a Climbing forum where i figured a few climbers might have pondered the same. A few ppl had some good logic as to the question, id like to know the benefit to gates in besides the alleged "dropping" factor. I ask because i'm always looking for ways to be more efficient on the rock & am interested in what others do & why they do it.
I like how many get all antsy & aggro when someone wants an opinion about Climbing on here. Im not asking for online belay directions or how to rappel, just looking for insights that might help me be better or learn something new- which I have .
If u think it's a noob ? your probably sitting at your computer wearing a gear sling over each shoulder with a bunch of #12 hexes clanging around with gates facing every which way & your wiener in your left hand.
Edit-^^^ oops not making fun of your hexes Reilly haha cool photo!
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