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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 12, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
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Just curious how most ppl do it & if there is any logic behind either way? I rack up with the biner gates facing in, towards my harness. Always have, & for no particular reason other than that is how i was taught. I notice a few of my friends & some others rack up with biner gates facing outwards, anyone here do that? If so, what is the benefit?
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 12, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
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If I have one cam on each biner I do up and in. but for wireds I do down and out.
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Oct 12, 2012 - 09:15pm PT
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whatever floats your boat!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
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That's kind of what I thought nutjob. Only pro/con I can think of is that it may be easier for a biner to come off your harness if the gate was facing outwards as it could get opened easier & potentially hooked on something? I guess I should rephrase the OP to- "what do you do & what is cooler- looking?"
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Oct 12, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
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I rack mine facing in too Ryan. I've never had anything pop off of my harness... Kieran faces his outward and dropped my 1.75 friend and had to trade me it for his .75 Camalot...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 12, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
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The occurrence of unclipping/dropping is probably about the same, but I've had more droppage occur with gates in than gates out. I think.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 12, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
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However I damn well please...
Your
Gonna
Die
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Fish Boy
Trad climber
Vancouver
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Oct 12, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
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What did you do with your cam Mike? Throw it away? So you wouldn't climb with me on that #3 cam that had fallen of Rock On that day you and I were there? Farking bomber I reckon!
Gates out, I drop a lot of gear, but I also find a lot. Seems a fair trade off to me.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Oct 12, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
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Fish, kieran is still using it.. It's one thing if I drop my gear, something else entirely to have your partner do it.. I'm pretty sure we used that 3 didn't we?
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Onewhowalksonrocks
Mountain climber
portland, Maine
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Oct 12, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
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For those of us who climbed before gear loops. We used gears slings only.
How many us only gear slings?
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Oct 12, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
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I use whatever I can. Seriously, when I am trying to get out of a tight spot, I am tripping... I really hate chimney's. Totally suck at them and it makes racking a nightmare.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 12, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
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If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer.
How many us only gear slings? Harness loops only for quick draws and my personal stuff, lockers, nut tool, cord for an ascender knot, rapp ring.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Oct 12, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
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over left shoulder
gates in
everything else is heresy
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
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Thanks for the replies everyone, still no consensus but some interesting replies. If u read the OP you would understand that the query wasn't whether u use a gear sling or not or what you carry with you when you climb. My question is still not clear I guess- "when putting carabiners on the gear loops of your harness do you face the gates towards or away from your body & more importantly why do you orient them in that particular direction?"
if you use a gear sling or not I don't care, they are impractical & useless for hard freeclimbing & more or less a leftover relic from a bygone era before harnesses with gear loops were around IMO. On a 2000' wall or for aid climbing sure, but lets say your about to get on a single pitch that only requires 6 quickdraws for gear??? Can we all put ourselves in this position for a moment?? If your carrying a sling still then maybe we need to start a seperate thread.
What I want to know is if there's a good reason or not to face the gates In a certain direction, besides looking cool & getting chicks as it would appear from the field research done here!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Oct 12, 2012 - 11:58pm PT
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Gates in, rope end down on draws. Gear is how it ends up, but I like gates in on everything. handier clipping? Maybe.
You're definitely gonna die. Just don't do it blowing the clip.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:00am PT
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"Can we all put ourselves in this position for a moment?? If your carrying a sling still then maybe we need to start a seperate thread."
Well, aren't you special.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:01am PT
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My gates always face out. It saves a major wrist twist and is a much more fluid gear placement and removal. I always rack on my harness and never use a gear sling.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2012 - 12:01am PT
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Haha ok ur right apogee sorry I was trolling a bit too hard there!
Edit- mtnmum has a reason! Yes, thank you. I thought about the twisting of the wrist as a possible reason. Still gonna keep mine facing in.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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Try them out and you will never go back. Just sayin.
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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Oct 13, 2012 - 12:18am PT
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Alternating. Best of both worlds and keeps the short-term memory sharp.
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