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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 11:33am PT
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Okay, yogurt and tea done...
As promised...
A COUPON!!!!
To honor my dear friend Mountain Dog I am offering 20% off any Yabo Says Relax shirt!
The coupon starts now and ends at Monday morning when I wake up.
Just enter YABOLIVES during checkout and the discount will be taken.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 11:45am PT
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Now, about Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
While they may not have had the success that mainstream bands like U2 had, FGTH did all right.
Were they a one-hit wonder? Well... The band had THREE singles at number one in the charts and a fourth at number two and a fifth at number four. "Relax" was the seventh best selling UK hit ever and they were only the second band in UK history to reach number one on the charts with three singles. Even after their decline in popularity they had singles in the top five! Overall, this "one-hit wonder" band sold more than six million albums. Not as many as the Dead perhaps, but not too shabby.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Feb 26, 2010 - 11:46am PT
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The only solution to all this arguing is obviously a cage-fight.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Feb 26, 2010 - 11:53am PT
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This IS a cagefight
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billygoat
climber
Pees on beard to seek mates.
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Feb 26, 2010 - 11:56am PT
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Coz--I've been in the same room with you before. Don't really feel the need to do that again. You seem more interested in the "who knew Yabo more" dick measuring competition than an actual discussion. Actually, based on your stance on other threads, that sorta seems how you approach everything. So, no, I don't really need to engage in an ego battle with you. I got my own ego to duke it out with, and that's enough for now.
Simon, thanks for being the voice of reason in these parts. You stand tall among a bunch of blow hards, and that's a hard job to accomplish anywhere (let alone on the taco stand).
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 12:05pm PT
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Mountain Dog...
Since you had difficulty comprehending my earlier post, let me go into full detail on the DOLT shirt. Not that I need to--this is a business, not a co-operative--but just, as an example, so you can see what I go through to do things right.
The original DOLT logo is iconic. It was before my time but from a purely design aesthetic, the logo is timeless. I recognized this last year and started asking around as to who owned the rights. I went deep into the history of climbing and spoke with everyone from Robbins, Chouinard, Lauria, Calderwood, Caldwell and several others who knew Bill in an attempt to get a lead to the legal rights owner. Don Lauria was kind enough to supply a patchy link to the husband and wife who acquired the rights to the DOLT brand out of probate court back in the 1970s. Another two weeks of research led me to these fine people in Nevada. Not only were they excited to see the logo used on shirts, they sent me original DOLT artwork, Bill's poetry, his patents, and other paraphernalia. (Yes, all of it will eventually be sent to the YCA museum when I finish drooling on it.) Hell, I have one item that is so effin unbelievable it gives me wood!
But I digress...
In return for licensing the DOLT brand these folks wanted me to make donation (based on sales) to their charitable school/church building work for the ultra-poor in South America. Since I already donate a percentage of everything I sell, (did you tithe today, Mountain Dog?) this was a no-brainer.
Now, what was that about my work being disrespectful and a ripoff?
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Chief
climber
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:09pm PT
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When I first saw the title of this thread I thought, WTF? and gave it a miss. Then my curiosity got the best of me and I had a read.
I knew John and while I never tied into a rope with Yabo I was a frequent participant in his "Ark Larks". Yabo never said "Relax".
More likely it was, "Got a smoke?"
Now if I saw someone wearing a T shirt that said;
"Arc On With The Power of the Burnouts of Gore"!
I'd definitely think of Yabo.
This other thing reeks of travesty.
Show the brother some respect.
Rest in Peace Yabo!
Perry Beckham
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 12:31pm PT
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I just received a very nice letter from someone who posts here. To be honest, many of you have written directly to me to express your support. This letter sticks out... To protect the writer's annonymity (you will see why) I have deleted his name toward the end.
Dear Simon,
I saw the shitstorm on the Taco about the Yabo Says Relax shirts and
just wanted to give you some support, but I am a pussy to post on that
thread because, well, I'm just a wanker who didn't know Yabo, can't
pull down harder than those defending his misinterpreted honour and
thus would be pushed aside swiftly. As I said, I didn't know Yabo, but
know enough about him to think his ego wouldn't get in the way of
this. I do know you however, even though only virtually and I know
that you work a lot with the climbing shirt designs, always seek
permission and while you maybe make some money on these designs you
also donate decent coinage to climbing causes.
I know if someone would make a shirt or poster of any of my good
friends and climbing partners who have passed away (self-inflicted or
otherwise), maybe even giving a few bucks to the climbing community, I
would see it as a way of honouring their memory and not as blasphemy.
Maybe some think the design is lame, maybe some feel offended, but to
them XXXX (edit by Simon) Says Relax.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:35pm PT
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Simon,
maybe a "Yabo, never forgotten" or some such design that his many friends saw as ultimately respectful would calm the storm?
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nita
Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
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Bruce, I like that line..... it shows respect..
i had to laugh at the Chief's quote..".Got a smoke?" ..... That's the line in my memory bank...;-)
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 12:43pm PT
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Survival... the shirt that Coz, Mountain Dog and others will be wearing to their next wine and cheese gathering will be announced as soon as I get finished with the Photoshop work... Before lunch.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:51pm PT
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Thanks Nita.
Yeah, "Got a smoke?" is probably the one that sticks with everyone eh?
I know controversy sells stuff, has always been in climbing and sometimes like this, is even a little fun. But I hate to see all this back biting amongst the tribe here.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:52pm PT
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Mountain Dog
If this were a real campfire, there wouldn't be blood.
Who are you, anonymous? Big enough man to throw punches in a hypothetical situation but still enough of a coward to hide.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 12:54pm PT
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I also thought that pic of GDavis looked like Sean Penn just before he wipes the floor with some paparazzi's arse. Now I know it's true!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:00pm PT
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Coz
I don't always agree with you, but I always agree with the way you say it. YOu are a classy dude. Someday, hopefully long off, when I'm ninety years old, I can wear a "Coz" T-Shirt!
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:08pm PT
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300 dollar jeans? Holy smokes Coz, somebody's got more scratch than I do...
I've got no rub with you either man, just a few too many getting up on the sacred memory horse around here.
I think Yabo would've said bring it on, where's my free shirts?
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 01:28pm PT
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You always talk like you're some movie star... - Coz.
A white button down and three hundred dollar jeans are more my speed. - Coz
Fish in a barrel...
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:29pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^LOL........he lost all credibility with the jeans thing!! ha!
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 01:30pm PT
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I think you should take into account that many of John's friends are offended...
I was one of John's friends... knew him before you were born. And, his surving family member has no issue.
I won't be buying your shirt.
OH NO! What ever will I do?????
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mountain dog
Trad climber
over the hills and far away
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:56pm PT
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drljefe, I am as anti-establishment/dirtbag climber as they come. Also, if I show you all my Dead show ticket stubs will that prove it to you?
Buggs bunny, Let me know when your in the Tahoe region so we can go 'dancing'.
I must say the insults here are very creative! Keep them coming! Maybe they will inspire IHP to come up with something original.
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