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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 7, 2015 - 10:16am PT
I'll start out with Noor Inayat Khan.

Indian, British, French, American, Sufi Muslim.

The first female secret agent put into France during WWII to help the resistance.






Inayat Khan, the eldest of four children, was born in Moscow. Her siblings were Vilayat (born 1916), Hidayat (born 1917), and Khair-un-Nisa (born 1919). Her father, Hazrat Inayat Khan, came from a noble Indian Muslim family - his mother was a descendant of the uncle of Tipu Sultan, the 18th-century ruler of the Kingdom of Mysore. He lived in Europe as a musician and a teacher of Sufism. Her mother Ameena Begum (Ora Meena Ray Baker) was an American from Albuquerque, New Mexico, who met Hazrat Inayat Khan during his travels in the United States. Ora Baker was the half-sister of American yogi and scholar Pierre Bernard, her guardian at the time she met Inayat (Hazrat is an honorific, translated as Saint). Vilayat later became head of the Sufi Order International.

In 1914, shortly before the outbreak of the First World War, the family left Russia for London, and lived in Bloomsbury. Inayat Khan attended nursery at Notting Hill. In 1920 they moved to France, settling in Suresnes near Paris, in a house that was a gift from a benefactor of the Sufi movement. After the death of her father in 1927, Inayat Khan took on the responsibility for her grief-stricken mother and her younger siblings. As a young girl, she was described as quiet, shy, sensitive, and dreamy, she studied child psychology at the Sorbonne and music at the Paris Conservatory under Nadia Boulanger, composing for harp and piano. She began a career writing poetry and children's stories and became a regular contributor to children's magazines and French radio. In 1939 her book, Twenty Jataka Tales (ISBN 978-0892813230), inspired by the Jataka tales of Buddhist tradition, was published in London.

After the outbreak of the Second World War, when France was overrun by German troops, the family fled to Bordeaux and, from there by sea, to England, landing in Falmouth, Cornwall, on 22 June 1940.


Although Inayat Khan was deeply influenced by the pacifist teachings of her father, she and her brother Vilayat decided to help defeat Nazi tyranny: "I wish some Indians would win high military distinction in this war. If one or two could do something in the Allied service which was very brave and which everybody admired it would help to make a bridge between the English people and the Indians."

On 19 November 1940, she joined the Women's Auxiliary Air Force (WAAF) and, as an Aircraftwoman 2nd Class, was sent to be trained as a wireless operator. Upon assignment to a bomber training school in June 1941, she applied for a commission in an effort to relieve herself of the boring work there, subsequently being promoted Assistant Section Officer.






Later, Inayat Khan was recruited to join F (France) Section of the Special Operations Executive and in early February 1943 she was posted to the Air Ministry, Directorate of Air Intelligence, seconded to First Aid Nursing Yeomanry (FANY), and sent to Wanborough Manor, near Guildford in Surrey, and from there to various other SOE schools for training, including STS 5 Winterfold House, STS 36 Boarmans and STS 52 Thame Park. During her training she adopted the name "Nora Baker".

Her superiors held mixed opinions on her suitability for secret warfare, and her training was incomplete. Nevertheless, her fluent French and her competency in wireless operation—coupled with a shortage of experienced agents—made her a desirable candidate for service in Nazi-occupied France. On 16/17 June 1943, cryptonymed 'Madeleine'/W/T operator 'Nurse' and under the cover identity of Jeanne-Marie Regnier, Assistant Section Officer/Ensign Inayat Khan was flown to landing ground B/20A 'Indigestion' in Northern France on a night landing double Lysander operation, code named Teacher/Nurse/Chaplain/Monk. She was met by Henri Déricourt.

She travelled to Paris, and with two other women, Diana Rowden (code named Paulette/Chaplain), and Cecily Lefort (code named Alice/Teacher), joined the Physician network led by Francis Suttill (code named Prosper). Over the next month and a half, all the other Physician network radio operators were arrested by the Sicherheitsdienst (SD), along with hundreds of Resistance personnel associated with Prosper. Colonel Maurice Buckmaster, head of F Section, later claimed that in spite of the danger, Inayat Khan rejected an offer to return to Britain, although it was certainly in SOE's interest that she stay in the field in the aftermath of the round-up of their largest network. As the only remaining wireless operator still at large in Paris, Inayat Khan continued to transmit to London messages from agents of what remained of the Prosper/Physician circuit, a network she also worked to keep intact despite the mass arrests of its members. She was now the most wanted British agent in Paris with SD officers sent out to look for her at subway stations, and an accurate description of her widely circulated among German security officers. With wireless detection vans in close pursuit, Inayat Khan could transmit for only twenty minutes at one time in one place, but constantly moving from place to place, she managed to escape capture while maintaining wireless communication with London: "She refused to abandon what had become the most important and dangerous post in France and did excellent work."




Inayat Khan was betrayed to the Germans, either by Henri Déricourt or by Renée Garry. Déricourt (code name Gilbert) was an SOE officer and former French Air Force pilot who had been suspected of working as a double agent for the Sicherheitsdienst. Garry was the sister of Émile Garry, Inayat Khan's organizer in the Cinema network (later renamed Phono).[9] Allegedly paid 100,000 francs, Renée Garry's actions have been attributed by some to jealousy due to Garry's suspicion that she had lost the affections of SOE agent France Antelme to Inayat Khan.

On or around 13 October 1943, Inayat Khan was arrested and interrogated at the SD Headquarters at 84 Avenue Foch in Paris. Though SOE trainers had expressed doubts about her gentle and unworldly character, on her arrest she fought so fiercely that SD officers were afraid of her. She was thenceforth treated as an extremely dangerous prisoner. There is no evidence of her being tortured, but her interrogation lasted over a month. During that time, she attempted escape twice. Hans Kieffer, the former head of the SD in Paris, testified after the war that she did not give the Gestapo a single piece of information, but lied consistently.




On 11 September 1944, Inyayat Khan and three other SOE agents from Karlsruhe prison, Yolande Beekman, Eliane Plewman, and Madeleine Damerment, were moved to the Dachau Concentration Camp. In the early morning hours of 13 September 1944, the four women were executed by a shot to the back of the head. Their bodies were immediately burned in the crematorium. An anonymous Dutch prisoner, who emerged in 1958, contended that Inayat Khan was cruelly beaten by a high-ranking SS officer named Wilhelm Ruppert before being shot from behind; the beating may have been the actual cause of her death.[15] She may also have been sexually assaulted while in custody. Her last word has been recorded as, "Liberté"


Who is yours?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 7, 2015 - 10:21am PT
LOL!

How about great Persians?

or great Arabs?

or great Afghanis?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2015 - 10:24am PT
LOL!

Post up, bitch.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jan 7, 2015 - 10:27am PT
For something a little more recent; Malala Yousafzai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 7, 2015 - 10:35am PT
Why not just "Great People"?

What difference does it make what book(s) of fables and nonsense someone claims to believe in (to great varying degrees).

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 7, 2015 - 10:37am PT
There you go. :)
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2015 - 10:39am PT
Because the Muslim hate and fear factor is pretty much off the chart these days for (insert your reason here).

So in my case, I choose to highlight a Muslim who did her thing for freedom and democracy.

Put up whatever kind of thread you like.

If you don't like my thread, start your own.
Why not that?


Edit: Thanks skcreidc.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 7, 2015 - 10:42am PT
the Muslim hate and fear factor

lol!

now you're sounding like a fundamentalist Christian, haha!

Confusing criticism of Islam with "racism" is now only a baby step away at 5.6.

"You got this." ;)
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 7, 2015 - 10:44am PT
I understand that, but even if there wasn't a single "great n' famous" self-proclaimed Muslim it shouldn't matter.... Billions raising their families, going to work every day to simply do what we do ourselves...

But the famous angle might work. good post.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:15am PT
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:20am PT

Al-Khwarizmi - Father of Algebra

Al-Khwarizmi most important work Hisab al-jabr w'al-muqabala written in 830 gives us the word algebra . This treatise classifies the solution of quadratic equations and gives geometric methods for completing the square. No symbols are used and no negative or zero coefficients were allowed.

Al-Khwarizmi also wrote on Hindu-Arabic numerals. The Arabic text is lost, but a Latin translation, Algoritmi de numero Indorum in English Al-Khwarizmi on the Hindu Art of Reckoning gave rise to the word algorithm deriving from his name in the title.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:27am PT
I could see where you were going with this Survival.

On that note, this is a complicated world we live in. Things are not always as they seem. Just some thoughts.

Note that use of the scientific method, was dominated from about 750 ad to 1250 ad by Arab-Islamic scholars. Following the Quran's advice that "The scholar's ink is more sacred than the blood of martyrs", Muslims gave us Arabic numerals, algebra, algorithms, and alchemy; they gave us our names of most of the stars visible to the eye: Aldebaran, the Andromeda galaxy, Betelgeuse, Deneb, Rigel, Vega, and hundreds more; following the Quran's teaching "For every disease, Allah has given a cure," Arab-Islamic doctors furthered the art of surgery, built hospitals, developed pharmacology, and compiled all the world's medical knowledge into comprehensive encyclopedias and the seminal Canon of Medicine; and they advanced art and architecture beyond what even the mighty Greeks and Romans had begun. This golden age ended at least in part because of the crusades and the burning of the libraries of books that had been amassed. The crusades gave Islam other things to focus on with the limited resources they had and things were never the same.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:36am PT
So far quite telling.

A few great Muslims but nothing to do with their religion or its driving ideology.

Of course the irony regarding Malala is outstanding.

Were it a "great scientists" thread there would probably be a reference to the person's achievements in science. Same with "great musicians" or "great football players."

Still holding my breath...

.....

Muslims gave us Arabic numerals, algebra, algorithms, and alchemy...

Yeah, and Christians gave us the aeroplane, telegraph, penicillin, etc.. lol

.....

"The scholar's ink is more sacred than the blood of martyrs."

In the Koran? I don't think so. You have a ref for that?
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:45am PT
^^^and the Chinese gave us the compass among other things. The point I get out of this is just to be a little more open minded. I personally think religions are very scary generally due to their use as political tools to divide people. Tribal mentality on steroids.

edit;

"The scholar's ink is more sacred than the blood of martyrs."

In the Koran? I don't think so. You have a ref for that?

You are right that is not from the Koran. It's from a 6th or 7th century Islamic scholar who I don't remember off the top of my head. I am pretty sure the second is though. But, this is mostly off the top of my head and as quick as possible, so......
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:49am PT

... my thought too...

take the bad guys

but not the whole population

... never go with the mob...
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:51am PT
This golden age ended at least in part because of the crusades and the burning of the libraries of books that had been amassed. The crusades gave Islam other things to focus on with the limited resources they had and things were never the same.

Another reason was the ban on representation of people. This ban was, I recall, made because people were made in the image of Mohammed and making an image of Mohammed was forbidden (or was it some other reason?).

So many advances in science were stalled.

Medicine: It was Leonardo do Vinci symbolizes the next step for medicine, studying dead bodies and drawing the organs and muscles and bones so he could learn principles of anatomy and, through his drawings, others could learn from his research.

In the physical sciences: painters and artists in the West, experimenting with accurately representing three-dimensional reality on a two-dimensional piece of canvas, learned about lenses, geometry, shadows, light. Refraction and reflection of light.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:52am PT
The point I get out of this is just to be a little more open minded.

Yeah, well, study or scholarship in an subject, with a corresponding buildup of expertise and/or knowledge, puts limits on "open-mindedness" as I'm sure you know.

Grandma was very open-minded concerning the claim that the moon was made out of cheese.
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jan 7, 2015 - 11:58am PT
The POTUS!
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jan 7, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
I need to go back through a couple books, but I remember there being a definite science being anti Islam theme helping end the "golden age" as Crunch says. Its a complicated combination of factors with the crusades likely being an excuse to reign in the population. At least that is my bullshit thought at this point (not being a scholar in this stuff).

FYI my mom and dad are christian and I am not. I've had a couple discussions with my mom about dinosaurs and men coexisting on earth (I AM trained as a geologist, hydrogeologist, and geochemist). Makes for interesting conversations.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 7, 2015 - 12:01pm PT

Alhazen, optics and the scientific method


Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham (Arabic: أبو علي، الحسن بن الحسن بن الهيثم‎), frequently referred to as Ibn al-Haytham (Arabic: ابن الهيثم, Latinized as Alhazen or Alhacen; c. 965 – c. 1040), was an Arab, Muslim, scientist, polymath, mathematician, astronomer and philosopher who made significant contributions to the principles of optics, astronomy, mathematics, meteorology, visual perception and the scientific method.

Alhazen's most famous work is his seven-volume treatise on optics Kitab al-Manazir (Book of Optics), written from 1011 to 1021.

Optics was translated into Latin by an unknown scholar at the end of the 12th century or the beginning of the 13th century.[39] It was printed by Friedrich Risner in 1572, with the title Opticae thesaurus: Alhazeni Arabis libri septem, nuncprimum editi; Eiusdem liber De Crepusculis et nubium ascensionibus (English : Optics treasure: Arab Alhazeni seven books, published for the first time: The book of the Twilight of the clouds and ascensions).[40] Risner is also the author of the name variant "Alhazen"; before Risner he was known in the west as Alhacen, which is the correct transcription of the Arabic name.[41] This work enjoyed a great reputation during the Middle Ages. Works by Alhazen on geometric subjects were discovered in the Bibliothèque nationale in Paris in 1834 by E. A. Sedillot. Other manuscripts are preserved in the Bodleian Library at Oxford and in the library of Leiden.

An aspect associated with Alhazen's optical research is related to systemic and methodological reliance on experimentation (i'tibar)(Arabic: إعتبار) and controlled testing in his scientific inquiries. Moreover, his experimental directives rested on combining classical physics (ilm tabi'i) with mathematics (ta'alim; geometry in particular). This mathematical-physical approach to experimental science supported most of his propositions in Kitab al-Manazir (The Optics; De aspectibus or Perspectivae) and grounded his theories of vision, light and colour, as well as his research in catoptrics and dioptrics (the study of the refraction of light). Bradley Steffens in his book Ibn Al-Haytham: First Scientist has argued that Alhazen's approach to testing and experimentation made an important contribution to the scientific method. According to Matthias Schramm, Alhazen:
was the first to make a systematic use of the method of varying the experimental conditions in a constant and uniform manner, in an experiment showing that the intensity of the light-spot formed by the projection of the moonlight through two small apertures onto a screen diminishes constantly as one of the apertures is gradually blocked up.

G. J. Toomer expressed some skepticism regarding Schramm's view, arguing that caution is needed to avoid reading anachronistically particular passages in Alhazen's very large body of work, and while acknowledging Alhazen's importance in developing experimental techniques, argued that he should not be considered in isolation from other Islamic and ancient thinkers.
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