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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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i second your e-notion, tobia.
i vote with the party who insists upon fuel alternatives;
i exercise my monetary clout by purchasing hybrid rigs;
i parent my children with an emphasis upon environmental appreciation and preservation.
...despite, we're so f*#ked as a species.
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Grampa
climber
from SoCal
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Everyone wants cheap gas but nobody wants to drill or mine for oil.
Instead of bitching about it, why don't you genetically engineer a tree that grows oil, and plant it next to your tree that grows money.
Opps, my bad, genetic engineering is wrong also.
Sell your vehicle and buy a horse.
Opps, my bad again. Horses produce methane and spoil the roads.
How about walking? Helps your health and keeps those Chinese child laborers employed for slave wages making your walking shoes.
*()#k13c!!!!
Sorry, first day back to work after the Holidays.....
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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What about high mileage plug-in hybrids, hybrids, electric cars,
vehicles that run off biofuels etc.
Cars in Europe pollute less and get much better mileage than
those in America. Why don't we have access to those vehicles?????
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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cuz the gubbment just bailed out OUR auto makers..
And rightly so.
Now OUR auto makers need to get their sh#t together and create more futuristic/ economical vehicles.
My wife is very happy with her Ford Fusion Hybrid. Electric/gas
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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So good to hear that your employed productively(?) Grampa!
Why not take a second job and send me back to grad school for another degree in genetic engineering. I accept paypal in large amounts.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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I like Grampa haha.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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What a lie.
This rig isn't drilling. It is being moved. Rigs get moved all over the world. It doesn't have any crude oil on it, just fuel like any other ship.
If it sinks, it will be like a sinking ship, although it is an extremely expensive bit of machinery.
Dude. You are totally full of sh#t. Drilling rigs drill the hole and then move to the next well. That is what a drilling rig does. It drills the well and then moves on to the next one. Over and over and over.
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prickle
Gym climber
globe,az
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stop with the facts base104!
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prickle
Gym climber
globe,az
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i second your e-notion, tobia.
i vote with the party who insists upon fuel alternatives;
i exercise my monetary clout by purchasing hybrid rigs;
i parent my children with an emphasis upon environmental appreciation and preservation.
...despite, we're so f*#ked as a species.
does your family follow a vegan diet?
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I can't win.
I'm a liberal.
I'm a raging environmentalist.
I know the oil industry from A to Z.
I try to tell the truth rather than cut and paste stuff out of context.
Seriously. There are a couple of posts above that I could take and stuff it up their asses with endless amounts of real world plain old data.
So I hate it. You get nowhere by lying. From here on out, the OP is suspect to me.
The risk from this thing is the same as a sinking ship. Even the Steve Irwin will leave a nice oil slick if those ass-boil Japanese Whalers ever sink it.
My advice? Before starting a new thread, take a breath, either know or learn just a little about what you are talking about, and then post.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Sounds like those dRigs are stuck in a rut. Did Sisyphus ever stop? I can't remember.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Unfortunate accidents or gross negligence have dogged the expansion of the oil industry in Alaska for decades with the result being more dependency on foreign oil and easy ammunition to arm the radical enviromentalist cause.Consider; 1) In 1989 just before the best ever chance of opening ANWR to oil development (which would have provided many billions of barrels of crude which might well have lessened the rational for later war in the middle east) the Exxon Valdez runs aground on Bligh Reef releasing the largest spill in american history to this point. ANWR off the table. 2)In 2010, Shell oil with all permits in hand and its fleet mobilizing to tap into a probable 20 billion barrel field in the Chukchi Sea off the NW Alaskan coast, BP's Deep Water Horizon Blows up killing many workers and releasing a new american record oil spill. The result being a moratorium on all american offshore drilling. 3)On the last day of 2012 Shells Kullik oil drilling platform runs aground off Kodiak Island in an Alaskan typhoon while being moved to winter harbor.The result being-they had better prey that none of the 120,000 gallons of diesel fuel or tens of thousands of gallons of lubricants and othe fluids are released or they will likely see a five billion dollar investment go down the drain along with the wreckage of the platform.
It seems with the singular exception of Prudhoe Bay the only luck big oil development in Alaska has had is bad luck.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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B104 pretty much nails it. If the thing had been in the process of drilling a well, and got detached without the various emergency systems kicking in to minimize leakage, that's one thing. Not what happened, at all. Even if it sinks, the spillage would be small potatoes relative to other spills - although those responsible will still get flogged for it by some, and it'll be cited as 'proof' of things that it isn't proof of at all.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
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base,
the 146,000 gallons of fuel and lubricants on the drill ship aren't the big picture . It's the fact that accidents happen and drilling in this volatile and fragile climate zone isn't worth the risk.
the Kulluk is just a finger pointing to the picture of what can and more than likely will happen if they drill in the Arctic Sea.
it can't sink; as it is already aground.
and what's more it isn't being moved now, it was and into an environment it doesn't belong.
and where is the lie? i see a rub; but no lie.
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