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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
80% of South Pacific islands are not flooding/sinking, they are growing in size link

Sea level rise has average 6 inches per century, no rate of increase has been observed. link

Sea level rise follows natural oscillations (Duke University) link

The rate of sea level rise has decreased 34 percent in the last decade. link

Sea level rise slowing down link

NOAA, no acceleration in sea level rise. link

Sea level rise has slowed the last seven years. Ed Caryl Link

Sea Level rise is slowing down. Klaus-Eckart Puls link

Relationship between solar activity and sea level. David Archibald link

Sea levels have been declining for the past 2 years link

NASA says sea levels are falling. link

NASA says sea level dropped in 2010 link

Island of Tuvalu and other Pacific Islands, are they threatened with sea rise? link

NOAA tidal gages shows sea level rise is averaging only 1.85 inches per century link

Sea level rise from polar ice melt is not a likely threat




ODD that is no? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
researchin in shyt..
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/31/us-climate-antarctica-idUSBRE92U05A20130331 Why the sea-ice is increasing.

(Reuters) - Global warming is expanding the extent of sea ice around Antarctica in winter in a paradoxical shift caused by cold plumes of summer melt water that re-freeze fast when temperatures drop, a study showed on Sunday.

Ron, I'm glad you like NASA so much.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Yes Mchale and he says the best theory of the antartic growth is ,,, wind coupled with fresh melt water. Are we now blaming wind on global warming too? I hadnt heard that one yet..If thats the case,, Nevada has a GOOD lawsuit against it all! We have ALWAYS had wind! Theres GOT to be a way i can make a buck from this!!!


Scrreeeeeeech! Whew,, started thinkin like an ECO groupie for a mo there!




edit: seriously, some of you need to view OTHER sites. See the other side of a POOOOlitical coin. And then remeber a famous phrase from a former president, " Beware when you hear Hi, were from the govt and were here to help". Thats what "GLOBAL Warming" is a pooolitical tool.. When dealing in govt service, i saw pooolitics at the lowest levels affect the best of plans turning them into useless jestures.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
http://www.businessinsider.com/islands-threatened-by-climate-change-2012-10?op=1


I gotta admit Ron I was ROFLMAO when I read your "researchin n shyt" post...are you actually reading what you research?? The ice sheets actually melt at different rates according to what spot of the continent is being measured. Antartic ice sheets are growing in the east but are losing far more ice in the WEST of antartica.

By the way the islands in the link above are DISAPPEARING don't believe it use some of your indigenous people skills I know you have and ASK personally!!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
OK Ron ,where does it say wind caused GW.

You are a master at providing links.

The poster boy for climate change denial.

Dick,the Chef, c'mon help your boy out here.

Convert[s],please ,help .
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
wilbeer are yu intaking yur namesake? I never said wind was causing GW..

The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 22, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
I just returned from an attempt to play with the local Brookies and Goldens up at Horton 1 & 2. Unfortunately a GCC Climatic induced disaster was occurring. The wind was at a steady 30ish mph with gusts up to 45. Had my Kestrel 3500 with me to measure the temps/wind etc. Did not even bother breaking out the Rod and stuff. Will attempt again this weekend with a clients 12 y/o son who has never caught a Brookie nor Golden. That will be a treat. Will post more this eve.
crunch

Social climber
CO
May 22, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
And where didya get that cut'n'pasty job?

website:

http://isthereglobalcooling.com/about_the_author

run by a Washington DC auto dealer "and former National Automobile Dealers Association board member" called Geoffrey Pohanka.

McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
" Beware when you hear Hi, were from the govt and were here to help".

Ron, didn't you work for the 'govt'?

Yes Mchale and he says the best theory of the antartic growth is ,,,

Ron, why can't you at least distinguish between continental ice and sea ice. Why do you do that? Don't you see the difference AND the connection?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
i worked both state and fed at ground levels. Im still a carded "Civil defense" member ( indefinite) which now falls underrrrrr natl guard? DHS?? got me actually..


My state was on a road crew for NDOT and i could make a natl lampoon movie of what i saw there.


Fed was BLM and USFS 3 and 11 years . From hotsnot, engine, helitack, into felling boss/line boss/smaller fire boss types,into timber and fulewood admin, LEO and then to Timber crew forman/LEO level 3 (one of the last)..
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
So you are/were a good guy in government - not one of the evil ones Reagan was talking about in that quote of his? That being;
Hi, were from the govt and were here to help
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 22, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
Of course you will. Here's something to slobber on in the meantime. A REAL motorbike.

'51 Vincent Black Shadow 1000
Top Speed around 135mph
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Slobbering here

Thanks Chief!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
2 wheel grief machine porn!^^^^^


Bikes are like RC helicopters. There are those that have crashed and those that will..( but those are gorgeous !)



And Mchale,, Yes that "image" stuck to us as well and the forest paid dearly for it then when eco groups and their science DENIED the obvious and true facts presented to them by truly GOOD govt types that only the had the BEST options for everyone concerned.

I just read a "doomsday" article of the beetles in Alaska being blamed on "GW".. BAHHHAHAaa.. It in essence is the fact that its stands ( stagnating due to dimished logging and wild fire suppression) have reached the zone of immanent mortality , become stressed due to too many stems per acre and the beetles now enjoy the stressed stands. They GO to "stressed" trees.. Those trees that are still DEEP in frozen snow at this very moment ,, so they arent stressed from " drying"...A forest has three ways of treatment.

Logging, wildfire, or ,,insect/disease. We long ago removed wildfire and can no longer have "naturally" burning fires. So your down to two viable options left. Logging or insects/diseases...But when stands reach the zone of eminent morality those are the choices.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
Ron just like in the movie "training day" when Denzel asks Ethan Hawke what was his most memorable FELONY ARREST---What was your most memorable felony arrest as a LEO (what we call TOOLS in JTree---because they look like ninja turtles with all the equipment they carry).

After that please explain the difference between SEA ICE SHEETS and CONTINENTAL ICE SHEETS and how they impact Sea level. Thanks
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
You need to post definitions to prove your own point mt lion.. by the way yur point is a rather moot one anyhoo.


Felony arrests? Well one was a pair of brothers who had been marking their own "timber' - dedicated commercial cutters who would be cutting at 200 am sometimes. Artificially enhanced with the amounts of speed they would snort. I swatted in on them, photographed them for a week. I was within ten feet of them many times and the never had a clue, day or night. Far in the back country that get yur heart rate up a wee. They were armed as well.


Another was going into the Woodfords Indian colony to serve a warrant on a local tribal member ( whos family was well known for LAW BReAKING) for felony theft of commercial logs from a deck, and had to have Alpine county AND CHP in full gear and auto ARs with me. Nothing like voluntarily strolling into what could be a mini iwo jima.. Im standin there watchin em clip on grenades tear gas canisters and the like thinkin,,, mannnn i HOPE we dont have to use ANY of this lol! But it WAS expected and there WAS a short stand off of about twenty long f-ing minutes. You wont believe how small you can make yurself to get behind a rock.No shot was fired though!. Hard to write out a mandatory appearance citation when yur bacon be a little shakin tu!
the worst you shall not hear.


wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
Sorry Ron, i thought your post said "are we now blaming wind for GW"

But you still have to work on that link thing.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
good stories Ron!

I am still waiting for the difference between Sea Ice Sheets and Continental Ice Sheets and how they impact Sea Level.

Could you get on to answering that question please?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
Is it me, or is it really true that all the deniers are strong Faux News enthusiasts?
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