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The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:07pm PT


Hmmmm. Coming from a blog, "skepticalscience.com". Very good AGW propaganda machine btw.

Cite a ref for that mass depletion LION. I believe you will find it comes only to the tune of the Western Peninsula and NOT the entire Antarctic continent. That is a given. But propel that bullshet.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:10pm PT

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/Grace/news/grace20121129.html

Satisfied Chaff? Or is NASA science only acceptable when you agree with it?


"Both ice sheets appear to be losing more ice now than 20 years ago, but the pace of ice loss from Greenland is extraordinary, with nearly a five-fold increase since the mid-1990s," Ivins said. "In contrast, the overall loss of ice in Antarctica has remained fairly constant, with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Er, um, Chief. That 'blog' gets the data for the graph from this GRACE study:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2009GL040222/abstract



rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Your seasonal polar ice extent pictures are humorous Monolith, but convincing to nobody but a fool. Below are some of many acknowledgements that Antarctic ice mass is increasing.

http://www.climate-cryosphere.org/en/events/2012/ISMASS/AntarcticaIceSheet.html

http://www.thegwpf.org/paper-antarctica-gaining-surface-ice-mass-150-years/

http://hockeyschtick.blog.spot.com/2012/09/grace-satellite-data-shows-antarctica.html
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
Looks like the word 'loss' got cut off from the end of that last quote. It's ice loss.



"Both ice sheets appear to be losing more ice now than 20 years ago, but the pace of ice loss from Greenland is extraordinary, with nearly a five-fold increase since the mid-1990s," Ivins said. "In contrast, the overall loss of ice in Antarctica has remained fairly constant, with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice

Add 'loss' to the end there.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
^^^^ Perfect NEWPhDCRHIST example of how you all take what looks good for your cause and manipulate it to do so.

You will take an EIGHT YEAR study and then claim that the the Antarctic is losing ice. Yet you will NOT accept 13-17 years of temps on a stagnant plateau and agree that the warming has ceased.

Amazing. You guys sure are full of shet. But I gotta give Jim Hansen credit for training you all well in the art of manipulation. Whether by models or peer rev'd papers.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
Indeed MN!!! Nice catch.

"In contrast, the overall loss of ice in Antarctica has remained fairly constant, with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice loss during the last decade."

(mouse pad has been acting up lately!!)

You will take an EIGHT study and then claim that the the Antarctic is losing ice. Yet you will NOT accept 13-17 years of temps on a stagnant plateau and agree that the warming has ceased.

No sane person has denied the 13-17 year plateau. That is in the FUKING DATA. Nobody denies it. It has been shown to you VERY FUKING CLEARLY why a plateau is EXACTLY WHAT IS EXPECTED when the ice starts melting. Why do you insist on being such a stupid fuk?

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
My god Christ Almighty, you may be getting extremely rattled but watch the profanity, their might be other kids tuned in.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Ignorance is far more offensive than foul language you fukwad.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
Your first link above Rick does not work and #2 goes to a site that was started by this guy - I actually read about it previously and recognized the guys name;

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/lord-lawsons-climatechange-think-tank-risks-being-dismantled-after-complaint-it-persistently-misled-public-8659314.html

You 3rd link does not work either.
WBraun

climber
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
Modern science peer review.

100 blind lab coats in a room all agree they can not see the one in the room who can see.

They call the one in the room who can see "Tin foil Hat" fool.

Then they kill him.

See all the happy blind peer review lab coats in agreement.

They all say "Our peer review is in agreement".

The nutter that says he is not blind is crazy.

No one can see they say since they're all blind.

Our peer review is scientific .......

:-)
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Persistently misled public:
Credit: McHale's Navy
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/lord-lawsons-climatechange-think-tank-risks-being-dismantled-after-complaint-it-persistently-misled-public-8659314.html

This is his website that Rick posted above;
http://www.thegwpf.org/paper-antarctica-gaining-surface-ice-mass-150-years/

http://www.thegwpf.org/who-we-are/
Credit: McHale's Navy
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
Hey fktardchrist. BOTH my PhD kids tell me that just cus they got PhD's, don't mean they know it all. One of em even states the title itself is a modern day badge of authenticity that proves one can write some nice flowery papers. She has had more battles with PhD's in regards to the reality of every day life, than anyone else. PhD's she says have this very false sense of all knowing and believe that they are the lead in all decision making. Not to be questioned. That is why she busted her ass to get one. Now she can get in their faces and they can't tell her to shut up. Most she says, haven't a clue of the ins and outs of what is actually happening out in the real every day world. Most come from a textbook lab/computer statistical environment. Real time experience is not in their dossier's.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:52pm PT
BOTH my PhD kids tell me that just cus they got PhD's, don't mean they know it all

That would apply if this were PhD level information. Unfortunately this is high school level chemistry, which makes you even more of a dumb ass.

PhD's she says have this very false sense of all knowing and believe that they are the lead in all decision making. Not to be questioned. That is why she busted her ass to get one.

The apple don't fall far from the tree I suppose... more interested in not being questioned and exerting influence over others than the subject matter.

I didn't get my PhD so I wouldn't be questioned. In fact, I would have LOVED to have been questioned more. I got my PhD because I love the subject and wanted to learn as much as possible about it. I LOVE it when people question me.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:52pm PT
Do you talk to them about climate change Chief? It's interesting to talk to people about it to get a feel about what info they are tapped into. Dr. Crist is correct - this is not high level, but I think a person has to have a higher level of understanding to weed out the baloney. You can't say American Science is Bullshit and expect anyone to listen. There are solid cornerstones about the reality out there that mean quite a lot, like the fact that the planet is not cooling in the face of extraordinary polar ice melt. That can mean only one thing if there is not extra volcanic activity under the poles.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Isn't dossier just a flowery synonym for file?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 17, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
That would apply if this were PhD level information. Unfortunately this is high school level chemistry, which makes you even more of a dumb ass.

Great attitude punk NEWPHDCHRIST. But I expect nothing less from someone who just got their undies wet for the first time. Stained White Coat. Gotta love it. I say you promote this attitude with all your fellow newb PhD's that are attempting to sell this car called AGW. Cus if you all employ this arrogantass attitude, the likes of me, RON, RICK S etal need not waste any more of our time. You will do all the work for us. Apparently the EU and other Nations aren't buying into this AGW Carbon Tax charade any longer either.

EDIT

Do you talk to them about climate change Chief?

Neither has the time for fantasies. They both are too busy working on issues that are affecting humanity right now. Not something that "may" happen in a century or two. They are both actively involved in realistic issues. Not something that a computer model states could happen "if".
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 17, 2013 - 09:03pm PT
Lots of ice is melting. It's real - it's not a model.

Apparently the EU and other Nations aren't buying into this AGW Carbon Tax charade any longer either.
The world economic situation does not take away from AGW. It makes it worse.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 17, 2013 - 09:03pm PT
Who's the et al...?

It looks like it's just you Ron, and Rick.

Isn't there a Kenny Rogers song that would fit the bill right now?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 17, 2013 - 09:05pm PT
That can mean only one thing if there is not extra volcanic activity under the poles.

There is that prevailing word again. The basis of this entire issue. "IF"


Lots of ice is melting.

Mchales. Answer this question. Is not most of the land that the Vikings actually thrived on Greenland, covered in ice at present day?
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