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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 27, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
That's the thing about records..there was always one before the current one. For example...

Minneapolis tanked to 21 degrees Saturday morning, its first record low since August, 2004. (There had been 42 record highs in that span, according to Minneapolis’ Paul Douglas).

So, what the ignorant fuktards do is latch onto ONE measurement that supports their misinformed view, and disregard the 42 record highs that occurred between the two record lows. It makes prefect sense, unless of course you think about it.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
May 27, 2013 - 04:11pm PT


Look into Polar Vortex Collapse. It's been happening for a number of years now.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 27, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
There is an event making the rock wet here in squamish right now..... in case you're wondering.

Good question raised by Rick Inferior. I keep hearing something about high amplitude jet stream waves getting "stuck" stationary. What are the boys saying up at the Wassilla Bar and Grill? Russians?

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/linking_weird_weather_to_rapid_warming_of_the_arctic/2501/
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 27, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
Sumatra, Indonesia: the rainforest's last stand: http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/video/2013/may/24/sumatra-indonesia-rainforest-video
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 27, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
OMG BK, the same event is happening down here CA. This is far bigger than we could have imagined!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
May 27, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
Climate Science Censorship by the Bush Administration;

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/280970-1

Turns out this video does not cover the censorship that much.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 27, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
ok, now you're talking...

you've made a statistical statement regarding the likelihood that this year is "normal" and your contention, which is probably correct, is that it is not normal...

that is climate...

...now please tell me how many hot "events" have occurred, vs. cold events in the last decade?

Weather, like history, repeats itself. In fact, I think weather is more unpredictable than human events in history.

But there do seem to be measurable, and recorded, timelines of weather events.

Everybody take a bong-hit and relax. It's not anthropomorphic. Just nature.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
May 27, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Everybody take a bong-hit and relax. It's not anthropomorphic. Just nature.

Well, that settles it, doesn't it? I guess all you science guys should get real jobs now.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 27, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
It's not anthropomorphic.

Some use big words to help clarify their statements. Others use big words to highlight their ignorance.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 27, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
Things are looking up. This thread was nearly extinct just a couple of months ago. Now we have Dr Bluering joining us. Welcome Dr Bluering! You'll have to take a stool over by Dr Werner Von Braun for now but you may be elevated in status at a later date. We were just listening to Dr Rick Inferior expound on his theories of intuitive sense in public policy. If you could refrain from interrupting we may yet learn something.

Please continue Rick.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 27, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
Yeah, you geniuses keep postulating your bullsh#t. Do whatever makes you feel grand.

Most people use common sense, and we realize the obvious. But then, I'm stupid, and you Global Warming activists are the smart ones.

So glad you're here to help us from ourselves.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 27, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
You are welcome.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 27, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
I had posted how much snow the dacks had the last day,it is amazing the misinformation out there.Very strange indeed that only 3 to 4 mountains in ny actually recieved measurable snow.
I talked to friend today who lives,skis and climbs ,in saranac lake.The snow was only on whiteface,the pictures you seen were on the whiteface mountain highway on the north/norteast aspect ,where big drifts had accumilated.He also said it was a total elevation event,not even freezing below 4000 ft.
It was a weather event that will hardly make a difference in any averages other than snow depth anomalies.
noaa shallow snow depth today
noaa shallow snow depth today
Credit: wilbeer
http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/interactive/html/map.html?ql=station&zoom=6&loc=46.90+N%2C+75.

The major accumalation is right where whiteface is with a little more on one or two nearby mountains.

Meanwhile ,tornados in Oklahoma,6 to 10 inches of rain in Iowa,and now forcasted highs of the mid 90s by tuesday/wednesday here in WNY.

My point being,science has predicted wild swings in "weather patterns",for how long now,YEARS.Now that these patterns HAVE materialized ,deniers are quick to point out,it is just weather.Weather is always changing,it always has.
Never mind,you have been warned for 20 plus years.

Deniers are just strengthening the scientists case.
I sincerly hope no one gets hurt as this hurricane season is just starting.
new world order2

climber
May 27, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Ed H., please....What are your thoughts on geo-engineering?

What are your thoughts on adding fluoride to drinking water?

And if you could, your thoughts on Monsanto?

I have asked you this question all of 5 times now. If you do not reply, I will respect your decision to remain silent, and will not ask again.

Thank you.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 27, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
NWO2, what do any of those have to do with Climate Change and the idiots who think they are being skeptics?
new world order2

climber
May 27, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
^^^^It's all part and parcel of the new world order.

George Orwell, 1984: “The two aims of the Party are to conquer the whole surface of the earth and to extinguish once and for all the possibility of independent thought.”

They want us to believe mankind is at fault for global warming, and the environment being what it is (or isn't).
They want us to believe CO2 is evil, then tax us for breathing.

They will then systematically bring in mandatory abortion, euthanasia, sterilization, and vaccines (for starters).

In other words....death control.

Then, they'll chip us all. I challenge anyone to deny mankind will eventually be chipped. You do realize those units work both ways?

According to the Georgia Guidestones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

A new world order ^^^^ One government, one world army, one world religion. One rule, for/over all.

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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 27, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
NWO2 ( he was banned as NWO) is desperate for attention to his personal causes so he will post on any thread in hopes someone will agree with him and become as outraged as he is

new world order2

climber
May 27, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
Oh Norton..."desperate for attention" ?

Lolz....pullllease. Compare how often I post, to how often you post.

Kettle black, anyone?

Open your mind, for like a parachute, it works better, when open.

Have you any "independent thought" ?
new world order2

climber
May 27, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
^^^And so has the majority of mankind.

"Absolute power corrupts, absolutely."

Sad, that. The sheeple, are asleeple. I digress.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 27, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
Not a clue of the ratio of hot/cold "weather" localized events of the last decade. That is for the CAGW bean counters to note then to be hysterically propagated by the compliant medias.We just (seemingly) came out of a grand maximum solar period and no matter how you slice it that had a significant contribution to previously rising global mean temperatures and because the models use a simplified value called TSI the particular variances and effects of individual parts of the total spectrum has been ignored-so the TSI is virtually worthless as a meaningful value.

Now onto one of the papers you posted-A New Diagram of the Global Energy Balance. This attempts to close the mean surface energy flux surface values between the models and improved observation. They have a reliable estimate of incoming solar value of 340Wm-2 (whatever the hell that represents - i thought it was watts/meter but the -2, which i thought was squared , throws me, please remedy my ignorance) , but this is only reliable for the observation period which is unknown to me. This value cannot be used for paleo reconstructions nor projections into the future.Next we have the discrepancy in estimations of latent heat flux which they go through a bit of contortion to justify their value of 85Wm-2. Finally they close the difference to .6 and dump it into the oceans ( as depicted by their diagram), but where, is it surface, or is it that mythical realm below the reach of the in place stations? Overall i find it a little depressing-this paper should be the product of undergraduates who pay for the priviledge education rather than taxpayer funded grants to researchers. After this , i assume it will be considered in the multi-billion dollar " play toy models" and then the scientists toys used by the IPCC and compliant governments to beat it's working citizenry over the head with attempts to "neccessarily skyrocket energy costs".

I may be wrong, i find the whole CAGW study buddy industry a little depressing. I'm concentrating on solar studies for the time being.
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