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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
It's no secret that the area of the Barent Sea offshore Norway and Russia has been increasingly ice free for at least a decade Ed. So what? That is not the Arctic any where near its entirety. With the cooling phase we are entering both Russia and Norway (territorial dispute solved and mutual cooperation contracts signed)may well thank the orthodox god's for Russias nuclear ice breaker fleet in coming decades. The production facilities may be located subsurface thereby alleviating problems due to ice flows.A little Polar melt in the immediate past and into an uncertain future is a good thing for this industry that has sustained our civilization for the last 100 plus years. Wind farms, solar farms, and taxing the public into serfdom not.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^



monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
The Chief was unable to comprehend:
No longer does thick ice protect their shoreline from the destructive power of autumn and winter storms. Kivalina's spit of sand has been dramatically narrowed.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Sure, lets cause climate change and put us back to climates millions of years ago.

Are you claiming that the disappearing arctic ice is not a result of man caused warming?

Bogus paleo temp chart from the Chief coming soon.
abrams

Sport climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
Kivalina. Why would they be living there?
On a shizzy sandbar! No boulders. No mountains to climb.
Surfing looks to suck also. Not our sort of dudes.

Maybe they'll develop some tech to stop the erosion that
can be transfered to help other gamblers that also built
their homes on quicksand.


command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:48am PT
So all that Chinese fly ash fallout onto the Arctic ocean has darkened it
and caused it to melt again, without any rise in temperature? Darn it!

Thank physics that most of the sunlight still gets reflected back into space from open water when the Sun is only a few degrees above the horizon. Also
the increased cloud cover may actually cause cooler the Arctic summers.



"the relationship between changes in sea ice and clouds, using satellite-derived sea ice concentration and cloud cover over the period 20002010. Results show that a 1% decrease in sea ice concentration leads to a 0.360.47% increase in cloud cover, suggesting that a further decline in sea ice cover will result in an even cloudier Arctic."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2012GL051251/abstract
dirtbag

climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 01:00am PT
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^



Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 30, 2013 - 01:01am PT
Whadufuk is ^^^ dat sh#t? Are you, like, 12?

Edit: @ Chump. Whadamaroon.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 01:14am PT
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^



Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 30, 2013 - 08:45am PT
I f*#k sh#t UP, baby!



DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:12am PT
If I have to explain it its not very funny. Think I'll keep my chuckles.

DMT

ps. it also reminds me of Nature in the Haulbag,
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:46am PT
No, Chump, the Bomz was out jockeyed by Dirt, not in disagreement. But it would fit in with your delusional MO to believe otherwise.

I wouldn't trust these guys to man the temp controls on an easy bake oven!

The wasp?! Hahaha. At least he has properly filed himself as a pest.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 10:26am PT
Chief Running Mouth apparently never gets tired of making himself look stoopid.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Jul 30, 2013 - 10:37am PT
Chief Running Mouth apparently never gets tired of making himself look stoopid
I see it as:

Chief Running Mouth apparently never gets tired of demonstrating his stoopidity
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 30, 2013 - 10:43am PT
The Pest, when I was but a grub we would make sport of wasp nests we found. Before garden hosing them out of existence, we'd practice our swing by batting the aerial vermin out of the sky. Little 'pling!'s would resound amidst laughter. Much like this thread, you living freaking joke!

The Wasp?! Ha Ha Ha!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 30, 2013 - 11:59am PT
Big oil's lackey bitches. Preach on, Pest.

The chuff cycle continues: Deny, deny some more but a little differently when your pseudoscience begins to crumble, and then, finally, retreat to some nihilistic neo caveman fantasy land where you fly on the backs of wasps and people actually take you seriously.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:00pm PT

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
The Alaska presentation is old news, somewhat exaggerated , in need of a serious update minus the sensationalist hype. It looks like that meltwater photo trying to be passed off as the north pole a few days ago to me. What part of what i have been telling you guys do you not understand? The climate change is in reverse up here, has been for over a decade.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
he climate change is in reverse up here, has been for over a decade.

really?

then how do you explain all time heat records broken across Alaska last month?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
They weren't all time heat records Norton. Close but no cigar, the 1930's exceeded it a little in high temps and a lot in duration. This little heat wave immediately followed the longest delayed spring in history up here. After the little heat wave we had a two week period of cloud cover and unseasonably cool temps. Does this answer it for you Norton?

I take issue with characterization of liberals as more concerned about care/harm Bruce. They talk the talk but walk in reverse. How much of your capital has been directed towards charitable contributions to help your community. I've contributed 1.35 m over a twenty year period- all without fanfare, all towards real projects that help all.
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