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Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:46am PT
That's why we have these helmuts and drool cups.

For someone who touts how smart you are, it's surprising how socially/emotionally immature you are. These people you use as an example to make fun of are far, far better people than you. They navigate life with severe cognitive impairments that aren't any fault of their own, giving 100% effort.

By resorting to your level of puerile taunting and outright vile insults, you not only show your lack of compassion, but you end up losing anyone who you might be starting to persuade. Frankly, it makes you look like an arrogant idiot.

The science-blind trolls in this debate certainly deserve derision for their unwillingness to venture beyond the Fox disinformation fog. But if you want to flaunt your supposed superiority, then show it by using 100% of your cognitive processing to come up with something creative. Or get back on the bus.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:53am PT
Even Gandhi mocked the mob from time to time.

DMT
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jul 29, 2013 - 10:12am PT
Pretty sure Ghandi didn't resort to the frequency and style of insults he does.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 29, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
I read the papers Ed posted over the weekend. The Hadgem2 earth system model was a journey into the belly of the beast inside some of these climate models. The intestinal contents are a little stinky in that a lot of them seem to be indeterminate, of origin, how they interact with other systems,their quantitative and qualitative values. It's good to see the priests are recognizing new processes but it seems they are just layering new junk on top of old junk. I don't think the new models will be any better at actually predicting climate of the future or for that matter even hindcasting very far out without artificial tweaks. It seems to me that these legions of "new scientists" should be forced out into the field for experimentation to actually nail down with accuracy the myriad of processes effecting climate. Their models should be taken away and replaced with cheaper blackboards and chalk until such time as they fully understand the empirical evidence. The other paper about the mystery of conditions on the earl earth was interesting. If you believed in the Gaia hypothesis you could make the determination that life held itself at bay in small niches awaiting maturation of the stellar cycle to the point that biological processes and products would have a positive effect under a brighter sun, then exploded when it's negative feedbacks would be beneficial to itself. Sorry about going off on a tangent but since the believers of CAGW seem to be practitioners of a negative religion i thought it appropriate to reintroduce it's positive foundation. OK go ahead and criticize. You'll say the foundation was actually 150 years ago. But i say it sat in the house of ill refute till being dusted off by the flower children (our generation for you oldsters) of the 70's. It was then twisted and perverted to what you see now for the benefit of the fascist state.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jul 29, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
Well chief, don't think you're any better than them. We're all mired in the sty, covered in feces.

Please reread the first sentence of the last paragraph of my post in case you're unclear on where you stand in this gunfight.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
The burden of proof is on you and your side.


Quite wrong. There is no need for "proof."

The planet is warming, and the climate scientists have figured out why--and they're showing you the science behind their findings.

It's been said that you could be told the secret of the Universe. However, if you're not ready to understand what is said, then the secret will pass you by.

The Bozos on the denial bus prove this adage every time they post their pseudo science.

What is it now, The Chief--Step 1, 2 or 3?
dirtbag

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Boo fookin hoo, chief hypocrite.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:18pm PT

Like I said, the burden of proof to win over the masses of this planet is on you.

Yes, of course but the burden of proof to change our scientific understanding is on the skeptics.

That a lot of people base their opionen about climate change on fox news and blogs (or actually what they whant to believe) instead of the actual science is obviously not a valid argument against the science.

Why do you try to argue against the science when one of your main arguments seems to be that people are not going to change anything due to the science anyway?

Science and policy is two different things and policy can't determine the science.

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
I'm no scientist, but it seems that The Chief couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag if his life depended on it.

He keeps pushing the no climate change agenda no matter what facts he is presented with.

What's the definition of insanity?
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:23pm PT

I aint the one claiming the world is gonna end due to warming all from the gas and C02 coming outta your ass/s.

Nope. No hypocrite here.

That is probably the most common reason for climate change skeptics. Their cognitiv dissonance make it much easier to live in the way they do if they think that it doesn't have any negative impact on the enviroment.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
Thank you chief for perfectly illustrating my point.

Just because you shut your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and sing an annoying song to block out the truth doesn't make the science any less accurate. Come back when you're done with your tantrums.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:44pm PT

99 plus % of the world hasn't time for this issue. They are too busy busting their asses daily trying to make it through the day. Thus, they are all "skeptics".

The 99% number is of course ridicilous wrong but I didn't expect something correct from you.

Then you still have this notion that, a don't care or don't want attitude about climate change make one a skeptic about the science. That is not true.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:51pm PT

Don't think so. 99% of the worlds population utilizes FF's daily cus that is all they can afford. In most cases, it is all they have available. Fact.
How many people are 99% of the world population? Can you answer that?
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
but what is 1%? Or maybe I should ask in another way. How large part of the population of western countries is included in your 99% claim?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 29, 2013 - 03:06pm PT
Exactly Bharata.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 03:47pm PT

Dude, 99% encompasses the entire planet. ALL of the world. The whole enchilada.

I just asked you to give a number for how many 1% of 7 billion are. It is clear that you have no idea (as I expected).

My first point where that there are much more than 1% of the world population that wouldn't have any problem with limiting their carbon footprint. There are also much more than 1% of the world population that understand and care about the climate.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Here is the REAL point. 99 plus % of the world hasn't time for this issue. They are too busy busting their asses daily trying to make it through the day. Not sitting at some Starbucks sipping their mocha latte Wi-Fying their bullshet agenda on the internet.

Does the word ingoramous fit the bill for this bloke?
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 03:58pm PT

700 Milion is your number of the 1%.

You are a genius! I am sure that rick and ron agrees with your calculation.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 04:02pm PT

The rest do not have time to even contemplate this issue. They are too worried about feeding their faces, keeping warm and not getting their asses blown away by some snipers bullet.

Sh#t, I think I need to leave Europe. I just realize that the majority here lives in tents or similar.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 29, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
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