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abrams

Sport climber
Aug 7, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
Why climate change will only kill Global Warming Believers, would be a better title for this thread.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 7, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
The house of lords DeBunkt him!

DMT
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 7, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
I remembered your reference to him from early on, after arrival on this thread, Bruce. Luckily, i ran into some of his work several days ago. He certainly has a clear coherent message doesn't he? You seem to be a one man PR department for him. Thanks for highlighting him, perhaps a few will be swayed by his message.

Now if you would do the same with Singer, Lindzen, Gray, Bastardi, Happer, Dyson, Christy, Spencer, Svensmark, Scafetta,Curry, etc, etc, etc, you could win this little argument for us. Keep up the good work!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 7, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Well I don't know about the others, but Lindzen agrees that the CO2 rise is man made and that climate sensitivity (i.e. doubling Co2 in a century) to CO2 is at least 1C.

Curry and Christy also agrees with some of the basics of agw.

You willing to go along with that, Rick?
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Aug 7, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
Did you see the Dsc ch show that linked Hitler to Smart Phones?

Without him and the nazi and their drive for rockets during the war which got the Allies very interested, which gave the people with slides rules head aches trying to do obscenely huge calculations, forced computers to be developed and eventually smart phones and global warming predictions models which are always wrong.




dirtbag

climber
Aug 7, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
^^^^^^ Wow...That's deep.^^^^
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 7, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
Goddard screwed up by not putting bombs on top of his rockets.
Smart people can be real dumb sometimes.






rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 7, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
His presentations, added to the increasing volumes of real climate science being done looking for all real mechanisms and realistic values, along with the shear weight of the testimony against CAGW by many of the world's preeminent scientists, added to the reliably false predictions of the models and the increasingly desperate hysterics of the lead CAGW proponents, leads any reasoning person to the conclusion that the catastrophe's you guys are so fond of advancing are a fraud.Period...ey Bruce?
dirtbag

climber
Aug 7, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
^^^^^ It's not surprising that you admire that illiterate ditz from wasilla.^^^^
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Aug 7, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
Are there any climate change deniers on this thread that aren't science/math retards?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Aug 7, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
A person has to be mentally-challenged to post here. Count me in!

I found this today;



Bacon fries on pavement as heat wave grips China
SHANGHAI (AP) — It's been so hot in China that people are grilling shrimp on manhole covers, eggs are hatching without incubators and a highway billboard has mysteriously caught fire by itself.
http://news.yahoo.com/bacon-fries-pavement-heat-wave-grips-china-115417865.html


Hey mate, throw another shrimp on the Barbie! (I added this)
dirtbag

climber
Aug 7, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Yes malamute, they're all like that. Even worse, they're too arrogant to realize they know nothing.


This is for you Chief Loud Mouth. Don't forget to be a good Yappy dog and lap up your mess.






McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Aug 7, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
That's the spirit. I miss those doggies! It's really a better way to communicate.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 7, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
It doesn't even seem like you guys are arguing the same subject?

So here's one for ya, what's the difference between "reason" and "common sense"?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 8, 2013 - 12:08am PT
Ed, The Chief, Rick can't take your calls now-out climbing till sunday evening-please leave message. Beep.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Aug 8, 2013 - 02:19am PT
What's funny is what Judith Curry has to say about it. Her opening statement is so predictable since she is the Queen of Uncertainty and how to use it politically. She might just be looking for a new job soon, but tucked away where she is she is pretty safe. Here is what she says from her blog;

JC comments

" Of the two statements, I vastly prefer Roger Pielke Sr’s statement,since he discusses the complexity of the issue and the uncertainties.

That said, I will once again question why AGU or any other professional society is issuing statements on this topic. IMO, AGU’s statement is one of the worst I’ve seen from a professional society on this topic, in particular its title ‘Human-induced climate change requires urgent action.’ This is an explicit statement of advocacy, that goes well beyond what the IPCC has said (and is expected to say in the AR5; we will see).

What really irks me about this statement is that I am a member of the AGU, and therefore this statement is implicitly speaking for me. It is clear that not even the 15 AGU members set to write this statement agreed, since one of their members (Pielke) has written a dissenting statement. The words ‘uncertainty’ or ‘debate’ are not used in the statement, leaving no wiggle room for them to pretend that this statement accounts for the range of perspectives in the AGU (or even within the writing committee), or the uncertainties.

If the AGU wants to maintain credibility as a scientific organization, it should do some serious self reflection. "

Ha! If the AGU wants to maintain credibility it will show her the door! The foot-dragger Curry wonders WHY the AGU made a statement at this time. I wonder how long she will keep up her stupid ruse, or how much longer the world will let her. It's time to move on.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Aug 8, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
I think it can be said that to the extent that Curry is agreeing with the AGW side in her most recent statements, she is already scrambling to save whatever credibility she has left. She will have to get her sh#t together and let her affiliation with the Denialists go, or get a job with the tobacco industry.

It's a funny image thinking of Foot-Dragger Curry straddling the fence of AGW V The Denialists. There is no question which side she will ultimately end up on......she has already crossed BACK over more to AGWists.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 8, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Do any of you smart guys know of a way to reverse the climate change?

If not, we're better off directing our resources toward dealing with the consequences of a changing climate.

Either way, it needs to be done quickly.

Me, I'd like it if it were warmer around here. Maybe my avocados wouldn't freeze so often.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 8, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 8, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
So what do you do, Monolith? Reverse it? Or adjust to it?

We have to choose, and we need to do it quickly.
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